Category talk:Lesbian actresses
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Actresses
editShouldn't this page be called "lesbian actresses"?
- a person who acts is an actor, actress is simply a pc term
- Yes, but a lesbian by definition is a woman, so you really don't need a gender neutral title.
- An actor can be male or female.
- It just sounds silly, imho.Nkm 13:58, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
- I was just about to make this topic here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.126.5.82 (talk) 04:59, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
- It just sounds silly, imho.Nkm 13:58, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
- An actor can be male or female.
- Yes, but a lesbian by definition is a woman, so you really don't need a gender neutral title.
He is he, and she is she. An actor is an actor, and an actress is an actress. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.72.151.150 (talk) 23:28, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Ellen Degeneres
editWhy is Ellen in the "gay actor" cat instead of lesbian actor? Has she never identified as lesbian? --JamesB3 08:07, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Why does someone keep removing the names of Liz Smith and Patricia Routledge
editThey are both lesbians according to their own Wikipages??? 70.19.82.80 17:44, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Because no one can find any information supporting that she is a lesbian. For all we know, it's just a rumor.
Actresses again
editIf they're women, they're actresses, i don't say that, English grammar, mmm, maybe Gaudio 19:59, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Actress is correct; it has nothing to do with political correctness, it is the English language. Period. (unsigned comment)
This seems to be a contentious issue. The term actor is gender neutral and, in particular with this word, refers to an action that should be devoid of gender (acting). The word ends in 'or', not 'er' and if you consider the myriad of other words ending in or you will find there is no 'ress' equivalent.
e.g.
Doctor Director Supervisor Creator Instructor Constructor
etc
I wonder if it is a feminist thing? I'm not sure.
89.241.160.42 15:10, 31 March 2007 (UTC) Pedantic 31 March 2007
Re the above comments, "-ess" as the feminine version of words that ended in "-or" for males was part of the English language from the time the "-ess" forms became necessary (i.e. from the time that women started performing those roles) until the 1980s, when there was a move in academia, later adopted by journalists in newspapers, to drop the "-ess" suffixes and make the "-or" endings gender-netural, which they had not been regarded as prior to that time. So the fact is that while today "-or" endings are regarded as gender-netural, this was not the case prior to the 1980s, and school children were indeed taught that a female director was a "directress", a female instructor was an "instructress" etc. This is all a matter of historical record. It always surprises me when Wikipedia contributors make comments to the effect that they are uncertain about what's correct - a bit of research (google is your friend) will soon provide the historical context that you need to understand the facts. Alex Paige (talk) 00:14, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Sandy Dennis
editWhy is Sandy Dennis listed? There is no info given whatsoever on her page that she was gay. (unsigned comment)
Categorizing by sexual orientation
editCategorizing by sexual orientation is non-encyclopedic and should not be done at all. The only time a person's sexuality should be mentioned is when it is a fundamental element of their contribution or professional activities. Otherwise it's often inaccurate, rumor, innuendo or serves only to titilate or serve an agenda. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.5.177.22 (talk) 15:37, 6 April 2007 (UTC).
I don't see the edit feature.
She's already there. For anyone who wants to know how to add anyone else, here's how. Go to the article on the person and add Lesbian actresses to the categories at the bottom of the page. Louieoddie (talk) 11:51, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Raven Symone
editCould someone please add actress Raven Symone to the list. She came out last year via her Twitter page. There are other sources that can back this up as well, I'm sure. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fourdiamond (talk • contribs) 02:07, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- This is best asked on Talk:Raven-Symoné. People are added to this category by adding
- to the bottom of the page about the actresses. You will also need a reliable source to justify inclusion.--Salix alba (talk): 05:37, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
How come it's ok for this page to have the word Actress in it. Seems like the word has been banned on wikipedia
editI've been on several other pages for women who act and the word "actress" seems to have been banned from all of their pages. I see there was a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lesbian_actors page that is used only has a place holder and gas even been deleted on occasion but I see no discussion. Where is the discussion that settled the "actress" issue for this page?--Dr who1975 (talk) 00:58, 14 September 2014 (UTC)--Dr who1975 (talk) 00:58, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
- The category was renamed following a speedy renaming to match the parent category Category:Actresses here [1]. Previous discussions include [2] and [3] and a broader discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 101#Actresses categorization. --Salix alba (talk): 06:11, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
What about Jodie Foster?
editWhat about Jodie Foster? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C5E:647F:EB85:B940:A5C9:E1F0:2ABB (talk) 23:21, 29 March 2020 (UTC)