Category talk:Redirects from misspellings
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Why?
editWhy even allow this type of page? If the creator of the link sees that it is broken right away they are more likely to fix it. Similarly for someone who comes along and sees that the link is broken. TechPurism 16:47, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
A. To prevent duplicate articles from being made by a "bad speller" B. To quickly access links that need fixing because a "bad speller" linked to it. C. Not everybody who uses the English wikipedia is a good speller, or even speaks fluent English. — FREAK OF NURxTURE (TALK) 12:55, Jan. 18, 2006
This is really, really stupid. There are an infinite number of misspellings of every page name, how do you select which ones deserve a redirect? All of these should be deleted, IMO. --Khendon 08:32, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- While judging whether they deserve a redirect or not probably isn't possible, there are plenty of very easily misspelled words (calling them non-standard spellings would probably work better) that get huge numbers of hits, and it would be a real lapse of judgement not to include redirects to those queries (e.g. Antartica, which is how the rest of my family likes to think it's spelled). freshgavinΓΛĿЌ 13:04, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Is someone fixing these with a bot?
editWell? — Dunc|☺ 13:09, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
- I just wrote a script for this. It's similar to my spelling tool, but since there are "only" about 2000 articles that link to redirects in this category, I'll try to fix them myself.
- If anybody wants to help or wants the source code (PHP), let me know. Wmahan. 04:34, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- I've gone through much of the list, but there are still about 1000 left. I put an updated list at User:Wmahan/Links to redirects from misspellings. Any help in going through the list would be appreciated. Wmahan. 20:51, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
- Be very careful. In some cases, the #REDIRECT target is not the correct spelling of the word. For instance, see La Nina. The correct spelling is La Niña, but La Nina redirects to El Niño-Southern Oscillation in order to avoid a double redirect. If the text of a link to La Niña was updated with El Niño-Southern Oscillation, the sentence would not only be awkward but change meaning. And, of course, the cost of a redirect is quite low; certainly, not worth the chance of leaving a spelling error in the text but correcting the link, or trying to fix the spelling and accidentally changing the meaning. -- Steven Fisher 06:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yes. I suggested a possible solution at Template talk:R from misspelling. Wmahan. 04:45, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Capitalization as a misspelling?
editShould a redirect that is different from the correct page title only by capitalization be considered a misspelling? For instance, should Abraham lincoln be listed as a "redirect from misspelling"? –RHolton≡– 19:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- In practice, it appears people use this template for such clearly nonstandard capitalizations. However, when a variation in capitalization is not a misspelling but rather a matter of stylistic preference, as with, say, Coriolis Effect → Coriolis effect, {{R from other capitalisation}} and the corresponding Category:Redirects from other capitalisations are a better alternative. Wmahan. 06:19, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
More Obvious
editI just discovered this template. As a lousy speller myself who does try to get things spelled right, I am glad to see it. However, it should be obvious to a redirected user what happened. If I go to Condoleeza Rice and wind up at Condoleezza Rice, I could easily miss this:
- (Redirected from Condoleeza Rice)
I would like to see
preferably on its own page so I'd have to click and would have my misspelling negatively reinforced and still get the page I want. Alternately this box could appear on the correct page. Is this technically feasible with MediaWiki? —Ben FrantzDale 01:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- I think this might be kind of annoying for some users, especially those with slow connections. I guess it depends how many people are interested in learning how to spell and how many are just interested in getting to their article quicker. So I don't know. But I personally wouldn't like this change. delldot | talk 01:34, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
- I think this would be great. This i how google work when you enter misspelled word.–Stijak 00:42, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Even with and despite of possible annoyance of users with slow conection, I vote for this change. In the long run it could lessen the load on the servers, and provide more spell-knowable users. In the short run it could increase the load, though - but only to a negligible extent. --Biblbroks's talk 14:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'd vote for this too. Re delldot's "I guess it depends how many people are interested in learning how to spell and how many are just interested in getting to their article quicker", I'd guess anyone who looks up an article on Wikipedia is interested in learning more about the article's subject, including how to spell it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WinTakeAll (talk • contribs) 00:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Even with and despite of possible annoyance of users with slow conection, I vote for this change. In the long run it could lessen the load on the servers, and provide more spell-knowable users. In the short run it could increase the load, though - but only to a negligible extent. --Biblbroks's talk 14:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- I think this would be great. This i how google work when you enter misspelled word.–Stijak 00:42, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Substing?
editSince you have to subst the template to see the text on the page (it only appears in the edit window), shouldn't the page say
"To add a redirect to this category, put {{subst:R from misspelling}} after the redirect but on the same line."
rather than
"To add a redirect to this category, put {{R from misspelling}} after the redirect but on the same line."
as it currently does? If you all agree to the change, I'll discuss it on the other redirect templates' talk pages too. delldot | talk 01:34, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
OK, well no one objected, so I'm going to make the change. If there's a problem with that, you can revert me or discuss it here. Thanks, delldot | talk 00:20, 27 December 2006 (UTC)On second thought, I think I'll discuss it on other redirect template pages and try to figure out why it's not already being done. delldot | talk 00:26, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Redirects displayed in different color?
editRight now, we only have broken red links and working blue links. It would be helpful to have additional colors, maybe purple (as halfway between red and blue) to indicate a legitimate redirect, and a bright orange for an unwanted redirect from misspelling that should be corrected asap. -- Matthead Discuß 10:42, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- To repeat my posting at Template talk:R from misspelling#Redirects displayed in different color?, I think a bot that simply listed existing links to redirects that are to correct misspellings would be better. Changing the color is only going to confuse readers, who outnumber editors by at least a thousand to one. And most editors aren't going to know what the new color means without some sort of mass education program - effort that would be better spent actually fixing the errors themselves, since even if an editor does know what a purple link or an orange link means, he/she may well not be interested in fixing it (or have time to do so). With a list, editors at Wikipedia:WikiProject Redirect, and other interested editors, could simply fix bad links. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 16:35, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
What"s with the {{Redirect from uncommon spelling}}
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I picked four obviously not misspelled things at random from the top of the list and find that all are patently not {{R from uncommon misspelling}}
s but {{R from other name}}
. Did some idiot run a bot? Before I go ahead and find out who did... which I already suspect... so an explanation of why they are so would be handy. Si Trew (talk) 21:42, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, other names or possibly incorrect names, but not misspellings. The first one I looked at, "across the world", was just done hours ago by Basilicofresco. First that editor tagged the redirect with {{R typo}}, then changed it to another alias, {{Redirect from uncommon misspelling}}, an obvious misnomer. Maybe that editor can help shed some light on this? – Paine EllsworthCLIMAX! 22:01, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
- I found a bunch of redirects from "incorrect names" with unnecessary quotation marks, so I decided to tag them in order to be sure they will stay orphan. I considered also a deletion request, but apparently they do not fall in this list: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion#Reasons for deleting. Since there were mistakes in the names, the tag {{R typo}} sounded appropriate. Nevertheless the mistake was not a common misspelling, so in order to avoid mixing them, I created a placeholder "{{Redirect from uncommon misspelling}}" that redirects here and I used it to tag them. {{R from other name}} is not correct because they are not alternative names, just plain mistakes. Anyway you are right, {{R from incorrect name}} seems more appripriate. I will replace all the {{Redirect from uncommon misspelling}} with {{R from incorrect name}}. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 10:53, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you, Basilicofresco – Category:Redirects from incorrect names is probably the best way to go, since these are all {{R from unsuitable title}}s per the WP:TITLEFORMAT policy. – Paine EllsworthCLIMAX! 18:03, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
- I found a bunch of redirects from "incorrect names" with unnecessary quotation marks, so I decided to tag them in order to be sure they will stay orphan. I considered also a deletion request, but apparently they do not fall in this list: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion#Reasons for deleting. Since there were mistakes in the names, the tag {{R typo}} sounded appropriate. Nevertheless the mistake was not a common misspelling, so in order to avoid mixing them, I created a placeholder "{{Redirect from uncommon misspelling}}" that redirects here and I used it to tag them. {{R from other name}} is not correct because they are not alternative names, just plain mistakes. Anyway you are right, {{R from incorrect name}} seems more appripriate. I will replace all the {{Redirect from uncommon misspelling}} with {{R from incorrect name}}. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 10:53, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
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