Talk:Fundamental laws of the Kingdom of France

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Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 03:14, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Copoied links into the header above. Mathglot (talk) 01:11, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

* -- used this one Elinruby (talk) 04:11, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

* used this narrarive bibliography for early writers Elinruby (talk) 05:03, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

• — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elinruby (talk • contribs) 03:05, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Ran WP:ReFill against the list, and it filled out most of them. Mathglot (talk) 03:17, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

qwant group

A few more, from Qwant:

• like Cliff notes for Frenchies; contains a definition
• serious essay
• chatty, q+a format
• syllabus at U. of Rennes for course with the article title as the course name
• from the PoV of legal status of the crown and the kingdom

Ran WP:ReFill against it. Mathglot (talk) 03:35, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Five more from Qwant:

• royalist website; includes definition, discusses difference between the crown, and its bearer
• from the legal PoV; has download link for 37-page pdf
• dissertation, from dissertation repository
• chap. II is on the title topic; from a book on the Ancien Regime by Y. Bercé (fee)
• article on 17th c. absolutism and monarchy

(Wait for reFill...) Mathglot (talk) 03:51, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Expanded by reFill, except for the fee-based one. Mathglot (talk) 03:53, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done Okay, I'm done here for now. At least it looks very real, and the topic is clearly notable, so that's good news. Mathglot (talk) 03:54, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Here's another one: Radica-2009 (see Further reading for citation) on Trois interprétations de la notion de « lois fondamentales » au xviiie siècle, with full text of the book available. Mathglot (talk) 06:58, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

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fundamental lsws of the republic

Came across rhis while clicking around recently. Both you and I worked on ot so it's probably at least half right, but it was a while ago so we should probably check it. Makes sense that there would still be fundamental laws even after it wasn't a monarcht, though, right? It's more surprising that there were some before the revolution. Anyway, consider this a note to us both.Elinruby (talk) 22:02, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Elinruby, Came across what? Did you forget to add a link? Mathglot (talk) 08:38, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

@Mathglot: Fundamental principles recognized by the laws of the Republic Elinruby (talk) 18:17, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

@Elinruby: completely different topics. The topic of that article concerns which written laws and documents of France should be considered "of constitutional force" (valeur constitutionnelle) in the present day, and is essentially a debate about the content of the constitutional block. They are all written documents. This article is about unwritten, customary laws from the Middle Ages, about inheritance and legitimacy of the French crown. There are still some traces of unwritten, customary law that have an effect on modern jurisprudence, but they have nothing to do with the constitutional block. So although they are two completely separate topics, the superficial similarity of the titles might imply that hatnotes should be added to both, once this draft is moved to main space to avoid possible confusion, so that was a really good catch to identify them. Mathglot (talk) 18:48, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Added hatnote to the draft. Mathglot (talk) 18:31, 6 July 2023 (UTC)