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Description08-14-04 Harnett County, NC Tornado.jpg	Tornado damage in Spout Springs, North Carolina on August 12, 2004
Date	12 August 2004
Source	http://www.erh.noaa.gov/rah/photo/
Author	Jeremy Meerscheidt (Spout Springs Fire Department) or Michael Moneypenny or Michael Strickler

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These images were all sourced from webpages of the US National Weather Service but are the work of third-party photographers. However, we have no evidence that any of these images are in the public domain or available under a free license.

For many years, hosting such images on the Commons was done in good faith under the rationale that:

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An extensive review of this rationale in 2024 revealed that neither of these beliefs held up to scrutiny. These findings were confirmed in an RfC conducted from August to October 2024.

Per COM:ONUS it is the responsibility of the person uploading an image to the Commons or anyone arguing for its retention here to provide evidence of permission from the copyright holder. For anyone interested in seeking the permission of the creators to retain these files, I offer, as a head start, the following notes left over from when I investigated them:

File:Anderson Hills Tornado (1995).jpg: Screenshot from a video. Videographer messaged September 23; no response. VRT ticket:2024102810008886
File:Ivan NC Tornado Damage.jpg, File:08-14-04 Harnett County, NC Tornado.jpg, File:Alberto NC flooding.jpg, and File:Alberto NC flooding - edit.jpg: All these other images come from pages with general attributions to multiple different individuals and agencies, without specifying which image came from where. I have not put in the labour required to disentangle these, although it might be worth the effort to someone else.

All these images were taken in the US after 1989, and therefore automatically protected by copyright at the instant of their creation unless ineligible for some reason. Unless anybody can provide any evidence of ineligibility for copyright, or permission from the respective copyright owners, we must delete all the files listed in this request per COM:PRP because as far as we can tell, they all are protected by copyright. --Rlandmann (talk) 14:06, 28 October 2024 (UTC)}} ~~~~

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current	20:13, 2 December 2007		640 × 427 (71 KB)	Hurricanehink	{{Information \|Description=Tornado damage in Spout Springs, North Carolina on August 12, 2004 \|Source=http://www.erh.noaa.gov/rah/photo/ \|Date=2004-08-12 \|Author=Jeremy Meerscheidt (Spout Springs Fire Department), Michael Moneypenny, and Michael Strickler

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