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Birsak kleindochter van Jacobus Emiel George Birsak met Ratem ( Birsak no 13 de kind van Birsak en Plasman(hadden`14 kinderen in Nederlands Indie} over grootvader waren Willem Birsak en Plasman Vader was Henry Ernany George Birsak en moeder Agatha was Ik heb 3 kinderen , Kris, Dewi Emiel van der Velden ben ik met Jacob Hellenthal getrouwd Ik ben Theresia Maria Hellenthal- Birsak geb 13 September 1957 in Gombong

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