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This file originates on this page of the US National Weather Service. However, the creator of the image is unknown and the photo is simply credited to the collection of w:The Journey Museum and Learning Center. The photo was taken at Rapid Creek, South Dakota in June 1972.

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According to the National Weather Service disclaimer linked at the bottom of the webpage, "The information on National Weather Service (NWS) Web pages are in the public domain, unless specifically noted otherwise." No particular form for such a notation is specified or required in the disclaimer, and a wide range of attribution styles is observed on past and present weather.gov pages. These range from very explicit, formal notices with the copyright (©) symbol, through to "Courtesy of ..." and "Photo by ..." notations.

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Taken together, all of the above creates significant doubt under the precautionary principle as to whether this image is in the public domain.

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Summary

DescriptionRapidcreek1972flood.jpg	English: 1972 flood in Rapid City, South Dakota
Date	1972
Source	http://www.crh.noaa.gov/unr/1972/timeline.php
Author	National Weather Service

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Original upload log

The original description page was here. All following user names refer to en.wikipedia.

Date/Time	Dimensions	User	Comment
2006-08-07 12:15	250×338× (45358 bytes)	Thegreatdr	National Weather Service, Rapid City, SD

File history

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	Date/Time	Thumbnail	Dimensions	User	Comment
current	07:30, 19 August 2015		250 × 338 (44 KB)	Innotata	Transferred from en.wikipedia

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Usage on de.wikipedia.org
- Canyon-Lake-Dammbruch
- Benutzer:Aeroid/Floods
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- Bruker:Aeroid/Floods
Usage on nl.wikipedia.org
- Gebruiker:Aeroid/Floods
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- Q1033970

File:Rapidcreek1972flood.jpg

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