File talk:New-Map-Francophone World.PNG
Canada
editThis is a pretty terrible map. The vast majority of Northern Quebec DO NOT speak French. Although it is an official language of the province, to colour it in and say that it's their "Native" language is entirely false. The population of Nunavik, the Northern 1/3 of Quebec is 90% Inuit (most of whom are bilingual in English and Inuktitut, but not French) with a smaller Cree population.
==> No, this is false. The Inuits all speak French and historically they were always speaking it. Nowadays, all amerindians they all speak French in Quebec as a result of the school system.
Also, there should be Green squares in more places in the Rest of Canada, particularly in Ontario like North Bay, Sturgeon Falls, Sudbury, Penetanguishene, Cornwall and Hawkesbury that have very significant francophone populations. To place a Green square in Maine and Louisiana (whose co-official language is French, making it both a minority and administrative language) while ignoring other Francophone communities in Canada is just plain ignorant. Likewise, painting all of New Brunswick as dark blue as Quebec is false. The Francophone communities are primarily in the North of the province as well as the East/South East (Moncton, Dieppe).
==> Again, this is false. New-Brunswick has adopted French as an official language and 40% of its popullation (not only located in the North) are francophones. Yes, Louisana should be in blue. Then, New England and Vermount should be covered by green squares. The North of Ontario should be put in blue according to your idea. Manitoba has a large francophone community, so this should also be reflected in the map.
==> In fact, USA contains between 5 and 7 millions french speakers, mainly located in Louisiana, New England, LA and then NYC. Small communities exist in Chicago and Miami.
Also there are Francophone communities on Cape Breton Island (Chéticamp, Saint-Joseph-du-Moine) which I believe merit a green square, as well as Southern Nova Scotia (Pointe-de-l'Eglise, Saulnierville, Meteghan) on Saint Anne's Bay (historically Acadian part of Nova Scotia). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_Acadians.png This map gives a pretty accurate indication of Francophone communities in the Maritimes, which continue to be francophone and which do not anglicize or assimilate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.72.18.217 (talk) 22:20, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Why is Canada light blue? French is an official language in Canada, not a cultural one. Canada should be blue, with Quebec as dark blue. --DFRussia (talk) 01:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
==> Yes, the whole of Canada has French as an official language. So the map is showing an error.
Agreed. French in Canada is an administrative language with the exception of Quebec and New Brunswick where it is an official language. (VanceBaker (talk) 14:56, 21 March 2008 (UTC))
==> No, French is an official language of Canada.
Why not add green points on Miami, and New York City, where significant French speaking minorities are present as well?
- I agree that the image reversion made by the user aaker on October 23, 2008 is incorrect. There seems to be some confusion because the terms are not defined. The illustration appears to come from the French Wikipedia so I checked the definitions there:
- Langue maternelle means "mother tongue", which is the first language learned by a child.
- Langue administrative is not defined on Wikipedia but if it means langue officielle ("official language"), then this is certainly the case for Canada.
- Langue de culture is defined as one that is priviledged but is not an official language, which is certainly not the case for Canada.
Thus, the current image is incongruous since it is contradicting Wikipedia itself. I believe that it should be reverted back to the image of September 18, 2008, which is the correct version.67.71.190.146 (talk) 20:52, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes. How about you make Quebec and N.B. dark blue, and the rest of Canada dashed between medium blue and green, because Francophones everywhere else are minorities even though it is an official language, and this is the best way to describe that. Also, I think that French is the second official language in Louisiana. I am not sure though. The Person Who Is Strange 22:53, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Western Sahara
editHmm... language of culture in Western Sahara. I'm no expert on the French language but that seems a bit off. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.177.46.230 (talk) 11:47, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- This is the only source I found on the topic: Language in Western Sahara where you can read "As a consequence of Moroccan occupation, French can be used with a small business class." Other sources cite only the official language Classical Arabic and the native dialectal Arabic. Aaker (talk) 15:07, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- French is one of two official languages in Lebanon and Syria, former French mandate territories from 1920 to 1943. Some French signage is still found in the countries' major cities like Beirut and Damascus like store fronts and road signs. + 71.102.7.77 (talk) 07:53, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Blue circles?
editWhat the hell are they? 76.25.250.150 (talk) 19:55, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
They are islands such as French Polynesia, New Caledonia, French West-Indies, Mauritius, Saint-Pierre-and-Miquelon, Réunion Island, Seychelles etc........ In all thoses territories, French is spoken as a native language (or more rarely as a second language)--91.67.216.18 (talk) 09:55, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
- Geographical locations of French Polynesia, Wallis & Futuna, Vanuatu displayed are incorrect! The 1st is where Easter island really is, but maybe it's not so important, especially in the light of the awful shift of the 2 other to north-east.
- French is also spoken in the Principalities of Andorra and Monaco, quite small in geopolitical size and direct proximity to France. The Channel Islands a British colony has a majority speaking a French dialect, a legacy of Anglo-Norman rule. + 71.102.7.77 (talk) 07:55, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Lebanon and Val d'Aoste (Italy)
editWhile French is extensively used in Lebanese education and many Lebanese speak excellent French, it is ***not*** an official language.
On the other hand in Val d'Aoste, French is an official language (similar to Quebec). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cerniagigante (talk • contribs) 14:02, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Canada part 2
editI don't see a clear reason why all of Canada is not dark blue. French is the official language of all of Canada now just a select few areas. This should be changed right away. I am open to an RfC on this issue. Outback the koala (talk) 17:46, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Syria
editIn my experience, having visited Syria, several people speak French in Aleppo in Syria. The Syrian Christians do speak French.
Romania
editRomania is classified as French speaking country since this is the second language there.
Morocco
editFrench is not an official language of Morocco but everyone is learning it and the majority of the popullation can use it.
Tunisia
editFrench is an official language there.
Editing summary
editI copied the colour coded key from the article French language and attempted to edit it into the file summary area. This led me to be editing it on Commons and I did and it worked but when I came back here to see it hadn't worked here. Just noting. 86.41.206.71 (talk) 16:27, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
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aosta
editwhile aosta is bilingual only a small portion of the inhabitants have french as mother tongue, the great majority grew up speaking italian and franco-provencal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.40.98.57 (talk) 15:47, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Algeria
editThe fact that the french language is the second language in Algeria is 100% wrong.
- No, not quite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.92.120.206 (talk) 18:42, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Côte d'Ivoire
editI'm curious why Côte d'Ivoire isn't dark blue. While French is usually the second language learned, unlike other francophone African countries it is almost universally spoken. Additionally, French is the only official language of the country. Fmitterand (talk) 09:29, 17 April 2017 (UTC)