File talk:SelmaHeschelMarch.jpg
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Looking closely at this photo, Heschel's face doesn't appear to be aligned to the body it is sitting on, nor does the light seem to fit. This appears to be a photoshopped picture. Also, other photos from the event show him wearing a hat. 75.148.147.213 (talk) 15:24, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
- The photo is genuine. If you pay attention, the photos of Heschel with a hat show him without a lei. They're from a different march from Selma to Montgomery. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 17:48, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
- Here is an article by Heschel's daughter a copy of the photo. I hope that is sufficient to demonstrate the authenticity of the image. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 17:56, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Identification of marchers
editOne cant help but to notice a slight error in the photo lineup, one that deserves an accurate corretion.. It mentions Rev. Fred Shuttlesworth to be in the picture to the left of Abraham Joshua Heschel; That isn't correct.. The man in the picture is none other that the Dr. Fredderick Douglas Reese, A influential civil rights figure, and the actual man who addresed,wrote, and sighned the letter that invited Dr Marin Luther King to Selma.... He was present and on the front row of all three marches.....including the historic Bloody Sunday March...
Justin Perkins
- The identification of the marchers comes from this site. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 17:54, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I can tell you for sure that there is one mistake in this photo. As you can see from this site -- http://www.jtsa.edu/x11157.xml -- the man who is third from the right, in between Abraham Joshua Heschel and Dr. King, is Rabbi Seymour Siegel, NOT Ralph Bunche. This is a very famous photo in the Seminary (rabbinical school) where Dr Siegel worked. As you can see from the website, he was the one who introduced Dr. Heschel to Dr. King, and Dr. King ended up speaking at the rabbinical school and making life-time friends with some of the leaders there. I am doing two things: (1) I'm editing the photo info to show the correct info, and (2) I'm contacting Susannah Heschel, the daughter of Abraham Heschel, who is the one who posted the photo on the Dartmouth site that is mentioned in the above comment. I'm sure she'll correct the info on the Dartmouth page (she is a professor at Dartmouth), as well. Floridarabbi (talk) 04:15, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the correction. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:28, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- Wonderful! Thank you for this note. Please ignore the note I left on your talk page, to make sure you knew what I had done! :)
Floridarabbi (talk) 04:35, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- Now I have to ask forgiveness for confusing the issue. After contacting both Susannah Heschel, who had posted the photo and description that was used in the wikipedia file, and the JTS (rabbinical seminary) website that identified the marcher between Dr. Heschel and Dr. King as Seymour Siegel, JTS communications department did some research and now admits its identification was wrong. I am changing the wiki photo file back to include Ralph Bunche, and changing the page on Seymour Siegel. Sorry, everyone! Floridarabbi (talk) 15:23, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Source and copyright
editI didn't upload the photo but I think I've tracked down the source: exactly the same size (706x564px, 58.63K).
I haven't been able to pinpoint who holds the copyright. The image looks like a news photo, but Dartmouth College or Susannah Heschel (Heschel's daughter) may own the copyright.
According to this site, the photo may be in the public domain. According to this site, the copyright is held by Dartmouth (the source of the Wikipedia image). This site credits Susannah Heschel and links to the same page at Dartmouth.
The source at Dartmouth is an article by Susannah Heschel, and it doesn't have any photo credit.
If anybody can find more information, I would appreciate it. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 18:34, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
- PBS says that the photo comes from Associated Press. Regardless of who holds the copyright, it seems clear that it's not in the public domain. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 05:34, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Unidentified nun
editI believe this is most likely Mary Ann Sommer, known as Sister Mary Leoline, one of the key Catholic participants and the only one to complete the entire march.[1][2] She does not have an article but might be notable enough for one due to her ongoing participation in the CRM. --Dhartung | Talk 06:03, 24 September 2013 (UTC)