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China?
editI appreciate the work of whoever did this chart, but the fact that it pretends China didn't even exist hardly inspires confidence. --173.233.16.96 (talk) 07:17, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for your feedback. At this time chart attempts to reflect military deaths related to the selected key theaters in Europe and Asia. The chart does not have info for Africa and China for now, but it will be updated to reflect 3-4 mln. military deaths of China. Mercury999 (talk) 05:20, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Chart data
editThe chart for the 'West' seems to include a non-negligible quantity for allies in 1939. I presume this refers to the invasion of Poland. Yet for 1940 the data show negligible deaths. Have the years' data been swapped by accident?. The French lost 180,000 military deaths in that year(invasion of France/Benelux/Norway). This alone would show up as non-negligible. Also, Poland is included in the 'East', Yugoslavia in the 'West' (Incidentally Yugoslavia suffered considerable casualties in 1942 - not shown).
The 'Pacific' chart shows casualties for 1940 when Japan was not at war with the US. Also the 1941 casualties would be negligible for both Japan and Allies. The 'Pacific' chart also fails to mention Australians, British and New Zealanders, Phillipinos. In short, what is the definition of 'Pacific'? Like the above commentator: why have a 'Manchuria' chart instead of a 'China' chart.
Frankly its all a bit vague and confusing 1812ahill (talk) 08:58, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, according to the Wikipedia article Battle of France French military deaths in 1940 are lower: 85,310 killed or even 55,000 according to recent French research. Still, I have to agree with you that 1939-40 chart for the on Western front needs to be adjusted and I will do so.Mercury999 (talk) 05:30, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- Yugoslavia casualties are not included in the Wikipedia article Eastern_Front_(World_War_II)#Casualties , so I made it part of the Western theater, though we could consider making it part of separate "Balkan Theater". I will research Yugoslavian casualties in 1942 and make an adjustment, if in fact Yugoslavia suffered considerable casualties in 1942. If you have links with specific numbers please post. Thanks. Mercury999 (talk) 05:37, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- You are absolutely right about 1940 when Japan was not at war with the US. I will make correction. Mercury999 (talk) 05:44, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- Since this is a high level chart, it is not intended to mention all 59 nations involved. For instance, New Zealand had about 11,000 killed. Mercury999 (talk) 06:12, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- Pacific theatre is defined in this Wikipedia article Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II. Mercury999 (talk) 06:12, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
US casualties: Pacific vs European Theather of Op.
editAfter looking the table it seems that U.S military forces suffered more casulties at the Pacific than in the ETO. However its not true U.S military personel dead (all causes) at the ETO surpassed the number of killed in the Pacific. There are numerous sources, so much that you can even google out and see. Another point, the lower part of the comparisong chart does not show Commonweath military losses remeber that some 8k died in the malayan and hong kong campaign. so try to guess some more died in others campaigns, Burma , India etc.190.118.6.66 (talk) 14:27, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, according to this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Front_(World_War_II)#cite_ref-6 "American: 109,820 killed or missing", which is even less then indicated om this chart: 180,000. Mercury999 (talk) 00:34, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
The data shown in the chart is inconsistent with the following wiki data: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties at the US footnote where casualties are broken out by service and theater. I suspect that the author of this incorrect chart saw the european theater casualties and assumed that the rest must be in the Pacific. (Mekozak (talk) 03:34, 11 November 2013 (UTC))
- Thanks for your input. So the footnote shows Europe–Atlantic 183,588 Combat Dead and Asia–Pacific 108,504. Is this what you suggesting to correct the chart? The total U. S. military deaths in battle and from other causes were shows 416,837. Where did the rest of the 124,000 go? Or should we split them proportionally between 2 theaters? Mercury999 (talk) 04:17, 11 November 2013 (UTC)