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Latest comment: 22 days ago by Foofighter20x in topic Incorrect British regnal year notation
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Incorrect British regnal year notation
editThe legal abbreviation for Charles in the context of regnal years is Car., for the Latin Carolus, and not Cha. ---Foofighter20x (talk) 02:16, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
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| − | 2 [[Charles | + | 2 [[Charles III|Car. 3]] – 3 [[Charles III|Car. 3]] |
100.36.134.149 (talk) 22:53, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Not done for now:@Foofighter20x do you have reliable sources source that "Car." is the appropriate abbreviation? Sites like this one, this one, and this one use "Cha." --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 20:36, 16 September 2024 (UTC)- I'd just like to note that the King's immediate predecessor seems to have used Eliz from the English Elizabeth and not Elis from the Latin Elisabeth thus creating a precedent for the use of Cha.
- For example, the Acts of Parliament Numbering and Citation Act 1962 is 1962 CHAPTER 34 10 and 11 Eliz 2.
- Luke 1:40 in the Vulgate in Latin is "et intravit in domum Zacchariae et salutavit Elisabeth" (“And she entered into the house of Zachary and saluted Elizabeth.”)
- From 1963 on they just used Gregorian year and chapter in laws, for example in the most recent Act of Parliament I can find it is just 2023 CHAPTER 57 so this doesn't prove that Charles III doesn't use Car but we definitely would need reliable sources that he does. Kiore (talk) 01:06, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Elizabeth II used the abbreviation Eliz. because that's been the usage for that regnal name since the 16th century. See generally the English Reports. --- Foofighter20x (talk) 19:33, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Table 2.43 United Kingdom from Blue Book (Harvard, Yale, Columbia, and U. Penn. law schools), which is the style guide for academic legal writing (up there with APA and Chicago Manuals of Style). Search "abbreviate monarchs" and see the table immediately following. --- Foofighter20x (talk) 19:30, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Foofighter20x You linked to v21 of Bluebook which was published in 2020, before there was a King Charles III. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 22:00, 28 September 2024 (UTC)- That's an exceedingly weak counterargument. There were two Charleses before v21 was published; stands to reason convention is to maintain consistency with the previous usage of abbreviations. --- Foofighter20x (talk) 08:13, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Foofighter20x You linked to v21 of Bluebook which was published in 2020, before there was a King Charles III. --Ahecht (TALK
