Talk:Erik Morales
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On 24 October 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Érik Morales to Erik Morales. The result of the discussion was moved. |
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editThe writer seems to have gotton the Jesus Chavez & Carlos Hernandez fights mixed up. Chavez is the one who was dropped twice & injured his hand, only throwing left hands down the stretch
Also, Saying that Morales "has never been punched to the canvas" is misleading. Morales has been down. He was called for a knockdown during the 12th round of the classic first bout with Barrera. Althought most feel it was an incorrect decision by the referee & not a legitimate knock down. Technically, he has been punched to the canvas.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Fatpom (talk • contribs) 03:51, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Chronology Section
editkudos to the author of the chronology section. i'm a boxing fan but i don't have the time to compile such information. i would appreciate such a chronology on every fighter's entry. Streamless 15:45, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Super Featherweight and Junior Lightweight
editYeah, the super feather and light weight divisions are the same, the are not separate, it should either be one or the other, or a slash or something.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.228.60 (talk) 02:17, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Strong POV and POV tag
editWow, I just browsed the article and the style of writting is terrible, the POV issues in it are ridiculous, instances like: Morales defeated his hated rival Marco Antonio Barrera, Morales dominated the fight against Jesús Chávez in 2004 and Morales wins the WBC Super Featherweight Title after humiliating Jesús Chávez in their bout in 2004 and section titles like: Unexpected loss to Raheem and Shocked by Pacquiao are just unacceptable specially in an article about someone often regarded as a legend. -- Caribbean~H.Q. 04:32, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Requested move 24 October 2022
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. Per consensus. As argued, there seems to be a wide use of the non-accented version, including the subject's own social accounts. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 10:23, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Érik Morales → Erik Morales
- Érik Morales vs. Marcos Maidana → Erik Morales vs. Marcos Maidana
- Érik Morales vs. Manny Pacquiao → Erik Morales vs. Manny Pacquiao
- Érik Morales vs. Manny Pacquiao II → Erik Morales vs. Manny Pacquiao II
- Manny Pacquiao vs. Érik Morales III → Manny Pacquiao vs. Erik Morales III
- Érik Morales vs. Marco Antonio Barrera I → Erik Morales vs. Marco Antonio Barrera I
- Marco Antonio Barrera vs. Érik Morales II → Marco Antonio Barrera vs. Erik Morales II
- Érik Morales vs. Marco Antonio Barrera III → Erik Morales vs. Marco Antonio Barrera III
– All reliable secondary sources use the unaccented "Erik Morales" when referring to this boxer ([1] [2] [3]). This isn't just a case of English-language media omitting accents either, as Spanish-language sources also use "Erik" ([4] [5]). 162 etc. (talk) 08:25, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 13:12, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- Strong oppose per Milenio: Érik Morales se mantiene ligado al boxeo en distintas facetas: "La marea te trae para acá". Érik is clearly the correct Mexican Spanish spelling - see this newspaper article this week. American sports websites constantly fail WP:RS as fit for purpose because of incomplete font sets, it this case the inability to show full spelling on capital A and E. Nom has provided no evidence that US sports websites pass WP:RS for spelling of Mexican (or any other hispanic) name. As for some of the cheaper Mexican websites also doing this - well what would we expect. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:47, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- Probably should have put this in the original nom, but the man himself uses "Erik", per all his blue check socials.[6] [7] [8]. I'll also note that per WP:NCP, "For minor spelling variations (capitalization, diacritics, punctuation and spacing after initials, etc.): when a consistent and unambiguous self-published version exists, it is usually followed." 162 etc. (talk) 16:29, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nomination and Ortizesp. Sports databases include accents and diacritics for numerous names but, in this case, BoxRec does not use the accent. Also, at the bottom of the article are 22 inline cites, not a single one of which uses the accent, including the Spanish-language Los Angeles Times. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 16:39, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- Support per above rationales. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:22, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- Support since evidence shows that the subject themselves using Erik in his social media.--65.92.162.81 (talk) 21:47, 24 October 2022 (UTC)