Talk:( ) (album)

Album name

how is the name meant to be pronounced? -- Tarquin 14:59 17 May 2003 (UTC)

As "      ", of course. How else?

I've heard it called "Parentheses". Omphaloscope 5 July 2005 14:57 (UTC)

I've always just called it "the untitled CD" or "their untitled CD"

"Brackets", "Parenthesis", "Untitled Album" or just nothing at all (just a gap while speaking) Fantom 22:35, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

"The Spy Machine"

What is "The Spy Machine"? -leigh (φθόγγος) 20:35, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)

Yeah I also want to know where that came from. -ZepAn

"The Spy Machine" is what "Njósnavélin" means. "The Nothing Song" is an alternate title for this track.

Yeah but where have people got these names from seeing as all the tracks are officially untitled?

[1] explains it well. R Calvete 05:58, 2005 July 11 (UTC)

the article should explain that the alternate titles are how the band refer to them (even though they're unnamed)

Differant variants?

Should we add some information on the differant variants of the album: like the fact that the EU, US, Japanese, and Aussie releases each got a differant coverart? Also, Iceland didn't get any unique coverart, but all four releases were actually sold there commercially. There was also a 2002/03 Spanish pressing by Karonte which had the album housed in a digibook with 94 (!) pages of contempery art.

There is a link to the Spanish Version here. http://www.popplagid.com/graphics/CDbook1.htm Endlessmug 14:07, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

<^>v!!This album is connected!!v<^>

• All song titles serve as redirects to this album, have their own pages, or have been placed at the appropriate disambiguation pages.--Hraefen ^Talk 20:43, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Mogwai Itunes Tracklisting

Is it just me who finds the “fake” track listing on iTunes to be completely irrelevant to the album page? I think giving just the real track names is sufficient enough. Endlessmug 14:20, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Album written while touring AB

All the songs in ( ) were being developed during their Ágætis byrjun tour. By the time they were recording these songs in the studio for a release, the band had played them MANY times before. Endlessmug 14:20, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Vonlenska

All the mention of the English interpretations of the Vonlenska should be on the Vonlenska page only I think. It just seems to be a little irrelevant being there is no true interpretation. Endlessmug 14:20, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the debate was Move Duja► 10:12, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

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( ) (album) → ( ) — Petition to move back the page to its original location. I do not feel that a distinct disambiguation page is necessary; the ( ) (album) page already had a link on the top to ( ) (film). The album sold half a million copies. 74.109.173.23 00:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Survey

Add  * '''Support'''  or  * '''Oppose'''  on a new line followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.

• Support The film is borderline non-notable. –  Anþony  talk  11:25, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Who cares? If that article is deleted due to non-notability, then move the album to (). -- Kicking222 00:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose () is a completely valid disambiguation. There's no reason for the move. -- Kicking222 00:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Do you think that Toronto (disambiguation) should be where Toronto is now? If not, this is the same case: people are much more likely to be looking for the album, and we're introducing an unnecessary click for them. --74.109.173.23 00:49, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • See WP:D#Primary topic. When one topic is significantly more likely to be searched for than other uses, it gets the name. –  Anþony  talk  05:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Support. Although there has as yet appeared no evidence that the film title was in any way derived from the album, the album is far more widely known and appeared first, and is IMO the primary meaning. Andrewa 11:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

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As an aside, I notice that all of the references are from the band itself, yet there are four independent reviews. You should be relying on those primarily, not information from the band. –  Anþony  talk  11:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

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Proposal to move page to ( ) (album)

I am not convinced that this is the primary topic since ( ) usage as "brackets" is surely more common outside this genre of music. Therefore, I propose that ( ) be moved to ( ) (album) and this page ( ) be used to disambiguate between the three topics (the third being ( ) (film). Abtract (talk) 08:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Dead link

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• http://milanrecords.com/screamingmasterpiece/playmovie2.php
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Dead link 2

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--JeffGBot (talk) 04:26, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Review criteria

Is there any criteria for including/excluding review scores? I'm referring in particular to Robert Christgau's score which is accompanies by the review which simply states "?_;@$.is" which doesn't seem awfully informative for the sake of this article.108.170.160.126 (talk) 05:53, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Requested moves 2

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 11:22, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

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• ( ) → ( ) (album)
• ( ) (disambiguation) → ( )

– there's also ( ) (film), no primary topic here. Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 15:10, 22 July 2014 (UTC) In ictu oculi (talk) 06:49, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

• The 90-day statistics show that this page has had 41x the page views of the film. For comparison, Boston is primary over Boston, Lincolnshire with only 15x the page views and Stand by Me (song) is primary over Stand by Me (Oasis song) with only 9x the views. Peter James (talk) 23:09, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

• Strong support "( )" is highly ambiguous, being a manner in the world at large, that people also specify the space character, a blank character, parentheses, the matrix operator, set operator, empty set, etc. -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 05:32, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
  • RedSlash's alternate proposal of pointing to parenthesis is also acceptable, thought I'd prefer the disambiguation page. -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 04:14, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
• Support... umm... seriously? this isn't a redirect to parenthesis? Red Slash 05:42, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
  • To clarify: Oppose the move of the disambiguation page. Redirect this to parenthesis. Red Slash 09:40, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose I think in this case the Sigur Rós album IS the primary topic. The film is barely known and the current hatnote on the album page works fine. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 08:52, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
• Support. Surely parenthesis is the primarytopic? --Richhoncho (talk) 22:41, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
• Support redirect to parenthesis per Red Slash and Richhoncho - I think a very strong case can be made for the proposition that a reader typing "( )" into the search window is actually looking for information on parentheses. bd2412 T 03:27, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
• Support; it is highly unlikely that an unfamiliar reader (like myself in this situation) would assume the plain title ( ) is referring to this album. Adding the disambiguator would definitely eliminate confusion that is likely to result from this confusing naming. WikiRedactor (talk) 22:21, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
• Support Red Slash's suggestion. It's quite reasonable to assume that people searching for ( ) are actually searching for parentheses. kennethaw88 • talk 03:09, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

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Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:( ) (album)/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Article requirements: Y All the start class criteria Y A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details Y At least one section of prose (excluding the lead section) N A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs Y A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians Y Categorisation at least by artist and year Y A casual reader should learn something about the album. Andrzejbanas (talk) 03:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Last edited at 11:23, 30 July 2014 (UTC). Substituted at 01:03, 15 April 2016 (UTC)