Talk:1899 Arizona football team
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edit@UW Dawgs: I noticed that you reverted the article title despite the discussion on the College Football talk page. On that page, both MisterCake and I expressed reluctance to adopt this naming regimen. As noted in that discussion, I continue to believe the articles should either be named: "190x Arizona football team" or "190x University of Arizona football team". I am fine with either, though the vanilla Arizona title seems ambiguous since it is also the name of the state and could be ambiguous without a clearer description. Cbl62 (talk) 22:27, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
- See link at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football#Assist with early Arizona Wildcats football team articles. Cbl62 (talk) 22:29, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, I initiated that unresolved discussion. The 1899 University of Arizona football team format was clearly wrong, as we do not use "University of" in CFB article titles. The 1899 and 1900 articles alone did not use a nickname, while the 1901-1913 articles use "Varsity." The early 1899-1913 articles are now consistent within themselves and holistically with rest of the Category:Arizona Wildcats football articles which have referenced "Varsity" for ~7 years. I also initiated a new discussion on Talk:Arizona Wildcats football for interested editors to discuss and resolve globally for Arizona articles of all types. UW Dawgs (talk) 23:41, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
- But you have reverted to something that is pretty clearly wrong (and which is contrary to the input received at the discussion you initiated). Any of the following would be acceptable: 1899 Arizona football team, 1899 University of Arizona football team (my preference as the most accurate and least ambiguous, and there is no policy against using "University" in the article name), or perhaps even 1899 Arizona varsity football team (lower case 'varsity'), but "Varsity" as a proper noun indicating an official nickname is contrary to the historical record. Cbl62 (talk) 00:43, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, I initiated that unresolved discussion. The 1899 University of Arizona football team format was clearly wrong, as we do not use "University of" in CFB article titles. The 1899 and 1900 articles alone did not use a nickname, while the 1901-1913 articles use "Varsity." The early 1899-1913 articles are now consistent within themselves and holistically with rest of the Category:Arizona Wildcats football articles which have referenced "Varsity" for ~7 years. I also initiated a new discussion on Talk:Arizona Wildcats football for interested editors to discuss and resolve globally for Arizona articles of all types. UW Dawgs (talk) 23:41, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
- On reflection, the least controversial naming protocol here would be "1899 Arizona football team". That is how it has been handled in other programs in the pre-nickname era. See, e.g., 1908 Florida football team, 1893 LSU football team, 1900 Washington Agricultural football team, 1900 Washington football team. Cbl62 (talk) 00:51, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
- A further move is needed in any event at the current title "1899 Arizona Varisty football team" misspells "varsity". Cbl62 (talk) 00:55, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
- On reflection, the least controversial naming protocol here would be "1899 Arizona football team". That is how it has been handled in other programs in the pre-nickname era. See, e.g., 1908 Florida football team, 1893 LSU football team, 1900 Washington Agricultural football team, 1900 Washington football team. Cbl62 (talk) 00:51, 9 November 2016 (UTC)