Talk:1999 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup final/GA1

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 08:41, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Comments

• "It was... It was..." in lead is repetitive: I would merge these two short sentences.
• The "n.a." in the fair use rationale for the programme front cover need to be fixed.

Done NapHit (talk) 13:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

• "Mallorca were appearing in their first final in their season in European competition" something missing here?
• "also appearing in the first Cup" surely "their" not "the"?
• "final" is currently used seven times in five sentences. My first point would make that six in four, but that's still too much. Perhaps "the final match" could be replaced with "the last match" or "the culmination" or something different.
• "rounds to reach the final. The rounds were" rounds repeat, and two short sentences again, consider merge.
• "which they progressed due to the away" -> " which were decided on the away"
• "Lazio took the lead " lost track of which match you're referring to now.
• "seventh minute" vs "81st minute" all numbers or all words for comparable values.
• Lots of false titles floating around.
• No other images available, e.g. Vieri?

Yes, I meant to add some. Have added Vieri and an image of Villa Park. NapHit (talk) 13:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

• "first during the 1997–98 La Liga," replace during with in.
• " team Hearts." First time round I would use their proper name i.e. Heart of Midlothian and maybe add (Hearts) after.
• "Hearts players that the goalposts at the same did not meet regulations" missing something here.
• "a 10 centimetres (3.9 in) difference" use adj=on in the convert template here.
• I think perhaps "fraught with controversy" is a little too much when the match went ahead with no changes and no mention here is made of anything enduring from that mismatch of goalposts.
• "ground. This was due to the" merge.
• Tore André Flo has an accent.
• "The first leg finished in " played where?

I've not added the grounds for these matches because RSSSF doesn't state where they were played. I was unable to find other sources either which touch in this. I think it would class as original research if I added the grounds without a reference to back it up. NapHit (talk) 13:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

• "The first leg ended in a 0–0 draw" ditto.
• "They faced Greek team Panionios." odd start to para, either put this at the end of the previous sentence, or merge it with the following.
• "Lazio won the first leg 4–0" where?
• "scored two goals " ambiguous, I would just say "both scored".
• "the semi-finals.[14] Their opponents in the semi-finals" repetitive.
• " Ruslan Nigmatullin. The match finished 1–1" merge.
• "was goalless and ended in a 0–0 draw, " saying the same thing twice.

More later. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 12:24, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

• "the previous season. A match" a comma, not a full stop.
• "Mallorca's last before" missing word.
• "La Liga. They lost 1–0" merge to avoid a three-word sentence.
• "Their record " who? the last team mentioned was Racing.
• " best in Spain" in La Liga? In professional football? In the whole of Spain?
• "draw with Fiorentina.[20] The draw meant " draw ... draw... repetitive.
• A.C. Milan is overlinked.
• "a game left to play in the 1998–99 Serie A season.[21] The final was" confusing, as you could infer this "final" was the aforementioned "game left to play". Reassert this is the CWC Final.
• "of Aston Villa, Villa Park, Birmingham." perhaps just "of Aston Villa, Villa Park in Birmingham."
• "The chairman of Aston Villa,..." it's odd that we're reporting what the chairman reported on what the bookies reported. Anything better than this available? It's not so much he "considered Lazio to be the favourites" but he was just regurgitating what someone else said.

Unfortunately, I struggled to find much on what was reported before the match. This was one of a few sources. NapHit (talk) 13:48, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

• "squads . . . but" see MOS:ELLIPSIS, should be a non-breaking space followed by ...
• Günter Benkö has no h.
• "headed a pass from Giuseppe Favalli past Roa, who was unable to stop Vieri's header" feels like you're saying the same thing twice, and was it a pass or a "cross"?

Had to check the footage on YouTube for this one. Was a deep pass from Lazio's half, great header by Vieri! NapHit (talk) 13:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

• Link cross.
• "before he returned" any idea how long he was off the field?

None of the sources explicitly say how long he was off the field for which is annoying. Best I could find was for a few minutes. NapHit (talk) 13:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

• " Another long-range shot from Vieri " you haven't indicated that he made one yet.
• "by Jovan Stanković passed" no need to repeat first names if the surname is unambiguous.

The reason for this is that there is a Stankovic playing for both teams. So I used full names for both to avoid confusing the reader. NapHit (talk) 13:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

• Link "yellow card".
• Link "free kick".
• "defender, Siniša Mihajlović " no comma. Or add one after Mihajlovic.
• " score as Jovan Stanković made" he's been replaced already...

That was his namesake Dejan. NapHit (talk) 13:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

• Luca Marchegiani and Pavel Nedvěd both overlinked.
• Paco Soler is piped to a redirect back to itself.
• Where are assistant and fourth officials referenced?

Yep, these aren't referenced anywhere. Appears they were added by a user based on a screenshot on eBay. Have removed now. NapHit (talk) 13:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

• Where are match rules (e.g. golden goal) referenced? The majority are "sky is blue" territory for me, but golden goal?

Again, I can't find a ref for this, I'm fairly certain it would have been golden goal as the 2001 UEFA Cup Final (great match btw!) was decided by a golden goal two years later. I've removed the reference to golden goal anyway in the absence of a reliable source. NapHit (talk) 13:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

• "Lazio manager, Eriksson, was " first prose mention of Sven so full name and link.

I neglected to mention him in the background section so I've linked to him there. NapHit (talk) 13:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

• "Perugia. This meant won Serie A " missing word, but merge anyway.
• " Lazio victory in" Lazio's.
• FC Barcelona is overlnked.
• Two mentions of Champions League here, both could link to the appropriate seasons, if not already linked.
• Rec. Soccer... etc is now just known as RSSSF.

That's it for a first pass, on hold. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 13:49, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to review the article The Rambling Man, I've gone through and actioned all of your points. I've left a few replies above to the queries that weren't just straight changes. NapHit (talk) 13:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

All good, sorry for a couple of the more stupid comments I made. I piped Heart of Midlothian F.C. to remove the F.C. and removed an overlink, but otherwise I think it's top notch. Promoting, well done. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 15:15, 17 May 2020 (UTC)