Talk:2024 storming of the Kenyan Parliament

Requested move 28 June 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to 2024 storming of the Kenyan Parliament. Consensus on the alternate title, albeit lowercase of 'storming' per precedence as shown in the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol article. – robertsky (talk) 05:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

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2024 Parliament of Kenya assault → Storming of Parliament of Kenya (2024) – Most sources says "The parliament of Kenya was stormed". It's imperative to align with what the sources mentioned. The parliament was neither attacked nor assaulted per their English standard meanings. As Wikipedians, we don't exaggerate sources. We keep it real! Every other titles shall remain redirects. Wår (talk) 15:32, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Support Alt 1: 2024 Storming of the Kenyan Parliament. Years are traditionally placed at the beginning of events if they are included. The US January 6 attack article also was originally at 2021 storming of the United States Capitol prior to moving it to 2021 United States Capitol attack, and later to the January 6 inclusive title which it's at now. I'll AGF and give the benefit of the doubt to the proposer that "stormed" was frequently used. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 18:00, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

@InvadingInvader

On Capitol attack: It was moved to the current title because later sources called it attack. All the page move requests then was influenced by sources which got consequently implemented.

I agree with the Alt 1: and it's once more correctly written as 2024 storming of Parliament of Kenya and not 2024 Storming of Kenyan Parliament

Just glad you didn't oppose. Wår (talk) 19:52, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. We can always move to a better title once a more firmly established English name is implemented, just like how 2021 storming of the Capitol became January 6 attack. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 20:49, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

So, we are implementing what sources says right now as it poses the title, 2024 storming of Parliament of Kenya? Wår (talk) 17:58, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

@InvadingInvader

Can you now please, add your vote as "Support" per your submission? This is to help the ideal reviewing Administrator. Wår (talk) 07:07, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose "Storming of Parliament" is ungrammatical without a "the." Even with it, it sounds awkward to have two "of"s when the first one isn't "list of." 174.92.25.207 (talk) 02:47, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

As of 29 June which was just yesterday, sources still call it "Storming of the Parliament of Kenya" like this one here.

I see no reason why the title should not be changed to align with the sources.

@Borgenland: Wår (talk) 06:41, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

@War Term: Did you mean to quote another link? There is no "Storming of the Parliament of Kenya" phrase in that link. There is also no "Storming of" or "Parliament of Kenya" wording. The website didn't change either.

In fact, searching Google and Bing for "Storming of the Parliament of Kenya" currently only returns Kenya_Finance_Bill_protests. On the contrary, I see no reason to use original research and misalign the article to an unsourced title. 174.92.25.207 (talk) 07:16, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Support with Alt 1 per InvadingInvader. — TheThomanski | t | c | 13:44, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Support 2024 Storming of the Kenyan Parliament (aka Alt 1 I think? But there seem to be several versions of Alt 1) which seems to tick all the boxes. Andrewa (talk) 07:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

why is 'lucky' used to describe the casualties?

The dead are described as 'lucky people' 4 times in this article, citing the AL Jazeera piece which does not contain that phrase. I know very little about this event or how the dead are being described, but quick review of sources doesn't seem to justify using that language. Oblivnow (talk) 23:50, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

it was vandalism, i just reverted it Tosatur (talk) 23:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

The page has been auto confirmed protected. Malicious vandals are gone for now. Wår (talk) 18:01, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

It’s a prolific vandal hopping from IP to IP making the same edits in articles involving loss of life. Borgenland (talk) 01:43, 30 June 2024 (UTC)