Talk:4:44

Requested move 24 June 2017

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The result of the move request was:  Not done(non-admin closure)DrStrauss talk 20:46, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

4:44 (album) → 4:44 – "4:44" redirects to "4:44 Last Day on Earth", which is completely unrelated. 2601:8C:4001:DCB9:C16A:443E:A64D:D03B (talk) 02:30, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:30, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

• In 4:44 I found 5 edits that belonged in 4:44 (album), so I history-merged them across. That left 4:44 with 2 edits, both redirects. (Talk:4:44 had 2 edits: a blank and a redirect.) I hatlinked from 4:44 Last Day on Earth to 4:44 (album). Is a move 4:44 (album) to 4:44 needed?, considering that most pop music is ephemeral. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:30, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
• Oppose not just WP:RECENT but album hasn't even be released yet. So far 4:44 refers to the film, per Danowski The Ends of the World 2016 150950401X "..is also the sentence screamed at the top of his lungs by Willem Dafoe's character in 4:44, to those who, in a vain attempt to exercise their free will for the last time in the face of imminent death, ...." however 4:44 should redirect to 444 (disambiguation)‎. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:29, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
• Oppose per In ictu oculi. If 4:44 isn't a dab page itself, redirect to the 444 (disambiguation) instead. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:55, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
• Oppose - how many millions of articles on WP and someone wants a set of random numbers to not have a parenthetical? Kellymoat (talk) 10:37, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

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Resources

This article from the Fader has some info on the song 4:44, but I don't know how to integrate it into the article in a encyclopedic manner, heh. "4:44 is an apology track to Beyonce". Figured I'd post it here as a possible resource --Jennica✿ / ^talk 09:57, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

This Rolling Stone article may also be a good resource, however, I am not good at wording things sometimes and I don't know where to incorporate it. It's not a review. --Jennica✿ / ^talk 23:53, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

iHeartRadio

It is also available there Billboard article. But I don't know how to add it, since the article says "Tidal-Sprint exclusive." Cornerstonepicker (talk) 22:04, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

@Cornerstonepicker: I believe it's already covered. Under the Release section, I added the iHeartRadio info in the third sentence. :) --Jennica✿ / ^talk 22:07, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

My bad, thx Cornerstonepicker (talk) 22:11, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Class

Since the album has been released, it should no longer be rated Future class. I recommend changing it to start class, but as a new, inexperienced user, that decision isn't up to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dudeofawe (talk • contribs) 18:08, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

@Dudeofawe: - Changed to B class, since that seems right. Also, don't forget to sign your signature to posts --Jennica✿ / ^talk 04:15, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Album cover

I recommended it be ported to Commons, since it's not eligible for copyright. It was and there is a problem with the thumbnail. See phab:T169678. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:32, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

tagging @BU Rob13:. He said the thumbnail would be cleared up within "a day or so". --Jennica✿ / ^talk 22:12, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

@Koavf and Jennica: Currently, the album appears fine to me, and I had considered it fixed. Is that not the case for you? If not, please try clearing your cache and looking again. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 22:52, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

@BU Rob13: I am still seeing the alt text (which I wrote). Even after a Ctrl+Shift+R refresh and using https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=4:44_(album)&action=purge. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:16, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

@BU Rob13: I cleared my cache and it still shows up as broke.. however, it does show up in Microsoft Edge [not my preferred browser].--Jennica✿ / ^talk 23:20, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

This is very, very odd. I have no idea what's going on, but it's being tracked as a Phabricator task, so people smarter than I are looking into it. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 00:41, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

There is an ongoing Request for Comments concerning this article

The wording of the lead sentence describing the album as Jay-Z's "fourteenth studio album and thirteenth solo album" is based on consistency with Jay-Z and Kanye West albums post-Watch the Throne describing the album in this way. This wording is the subject of a discussion at Talk:The_Life_of_Pablo#Request_for_comment. The input of any interested editors is sought. Cjhard (talk) 05:16, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Watch the Throne is a Jay Z album regardless whether or not it's collaborative or solo. The lead may be unfavorable to readers since it's just too long and redundant. The collaborative album should be included in the count. The solo album count doesn't matter and should be removed, the difference is just one album. If the difference is huge, then it might be reasonable to add but it's not. - TheMagnificentist 17:37, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 July 2017

YRN Kid (talk) 17:29, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Update guests.

 Not done Please provide the change you want to make in X to Y format. --Izno (talk) 17:55, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 26 May 2019

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The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain ^t/c 17:51, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

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4:44 (album) → 4:44 – Already redirects here. Therefore this is already the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and currently uses unnecessary disambiguation. The last RM was two years ago, before the RD target was changed to this album. If not this move, then a disambiguation page should be made at 4:44. Lazz_R 12:20, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

• Support per nom, although I do think there should be a dab page at 4:44 (disambiguation). Of things named "4:44" this is the clear primary topic, the song and tour are secondary to the album and the film is only a partial title match. PC78 (talk) 14:15, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
• If the album isn't moved to the base name then 4:44 (disambiguation) should go there but indeed it looks like this is the only use of this term. I suppose we should include 12-hour clock on the DAB but it doesn't look like a likely target, 4:43 is a red link and 5:55 is also about an album. Crouch, Swale (talk) 14:34, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
• Support. I don't see what else could be primary topic here. Nohomersryan (talk) 16:42, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

• Support per nom, but nb 4:44 Last Day on Earth. —  AjaxSmack  17:57, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Totally unnecessary disambiguation link. Masum Reza^📞 18:13, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose in June 2017 RM the album hadn't been released yet but the current set up is working fine, 4:44 Last Day on Earth. the "4:44 is" test in Gbooks produces hits for 4:44 (Park Bom song). In ictu oculi (talk) 12:41, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Calidum 05:23, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

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