Talk:Battle of Hogland (1713)

Casualties

I'm curious, in the picture displaying the battle, one can see two Russian ships either sinking or burning. However, in the casualty bar only one is mentioned. There's also a written text in Swedish up-left which says (roughly translated): A Swedish detachment of three ships commanded by Carl Raab and Captain Kjörning and S. I. Wrangel fought 13 Russian ships which were hunting them with cannon fire, when 2 Russian ships were lost and the Swedish ships luckily escaped. So, judging from this 2 Russian ships were lost. Any thoughts? Imonoz (talk) 18:32, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Not sure. Mattila is quite clear that only one Russian ship would have been lost. There are some issues with the sources as to which ship exactly was lost, Swedes claim it was the Russian flagship Moskva but in this occasion it would seem to be better to trust the Russian information that it was Vyborg. Given that there are two different names for the ship that was lost it might not be inconceivable to assume that the Swedish artist then chose to draw both of them as Russian losses. Of three Russian ships that run aground the two survivors lost their heavy guns as they had to lighten the ships by throwing cannons overboard to get the ships loose from the rocks. - Wanderer602 (talk) 20:27, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

That sounds reasonable, thanks for clearing that up. Imonoz (talk) 22:09, 20 August 2013 (UTC)