Talk:Actors of the Comédie-Française

Requested move 8 April 2020

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The result of the move request was: No consensus. (non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:29, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

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Actors of the Comédie-Française → Coquettes qui pour voir – The traditional naming of Coquettes qui pour voir seems a much appropriate title to me (even though I'm a Russian) and others editors. While there are some instances when the title of Actors... is used, Martin Eidelberg's 2006 article on Philippe Mercier's drawings [[[JSTOR (identifier)|JSTOR]] 20444473; at p. 431 it mentions a loose anonymous drawing of Mezzetin after Coquettes...] seems the only one by Watteau scholar to refer to the painting by that title; an 1975 exhibition catalogue use this title only to refer to Love in the French Theater from the Berlin State Museums. The rest of them is either related to the Hermitage and its history at most (like this one, by Piotrovsky the Elder, and another one) or French theatre history in general, at least (like that). Gleb95 (talk) 21:38, 8 April 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. buidhe 05:36, 18 April 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. buidhe 05:51, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME in the English-speaking world. One after another, English-language references name it by its English name: [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10], etc. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:46, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
  • @Roman Spinner: Links #1, #3, #4, and #9 you offered are on The French Comedians, a painting from the Metropolitan Museum collection that only happens to also use a similar name of Actors from the Comédie Française. If you could lurk the sites from these links for more, the picture-in-discussion could be found in all of the cases, yet the only one of them calls it Actors of the Comédie-Française; in other three cases, it is either called Maskerade (a title used by Macchia and Montagni's 1968 catalogue raisoneé, and it's translations into French and English), or The Coquettes (possibly after Börsch-Supan's description, as his dating of the picture to ca. 1718 is used).
    Link #2 could be fine; the problem is that it seems to copy the description from the Hermitage's English website. #6 seems to use the content from Wikimedia Commons, which is fine. The rest (as well as #4 and #9) are reproduction sellers, which reliability I'm not greatly sure of. Pretty good selection, though. From Russia with love, Gleb95 (talk) 11:20, 9 April 2020 (UTC).
    • @Gleb95: My apologies about links #1, #3, #4, and #9. In a singleminded focus on the title, I lost sight of the image. However, as far as the correct painting is concerned, an English-language search produces far more results for its English name than for its French name. Here are nine additional results: [11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19]. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 15:27, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

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Eight studies of heads preparatory composition

Watteau - Huit études de têtes, c. 1715-16

(Flagrant hysterical curious (talk) 00:13, 17 July 2020 (UTC))