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Latest comment: 16 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

Anyone care to explain what makes this pub notable? Especially with the total lack of references. Comparing this establishment to The Old Crown, there seems no reason for this article.

The only apparent attempt at notability asserted in the article is the second line:

"The Adam & Eve is unique in that it is the only public house remaining on Bradford Street. At one time there where over twenty."

As far as I can tell, the points of interest in this article are:

200 years old
- I can't see why a pub is notable just based on age (I don't feel that 200 years is particularly old for a pub)
Survival compared to other local pubs
Unusual name
- It's not unique
Architecture
- And I quote: "...making it similar to other pubs of the time..." - not unique
Overnight accommodation
- Pubs with bedrooms are not notable
Live music
- Could be notable, if linked to a famous (regular) musician/group. However, pubs like the Eagle and Tun (linked with UB40) do not have a Wikipedia article.

If there's no response, I'll be nominating this article for deletion.

Booglamay (talk) 21:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

The Adam & Eve is notable because there has been a pub of this name in its location for at least 200 years. These are marked on a map drawn-up in 1748 when Bradford Street was first created. The fact that the pub is the only remaining one on this street (out of more than 20) reflects the changing social history of the area.

The actual buildings are notable because they date back to 18th century. This isn't particularly old for Britain as a whole but it is for Birmingham. There were very few buildings from this period in the city and many of those that made it into the 20th century were destroyed in the blitz.

All the above information is supported by a link which cites primary sources, as is the evolution of the pub's buildings and the origin of its name.[1]

The lack of a Wikipedia article on the Eagle & Tun is irrelevant to this issue but there is no reason why you shouldn't create one.

I agree that Clientele section contains trivial information and unsupported material. I see no reason not to delete this section and keep the rest of the article.

Unknown Unknowns (talk) 12:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Fair enough, I've done it. The Grot (talk) 08:59, 14 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

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