Talk:Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaah

Correct spelling and translation?

• You spell it in the article as being Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah or Ahl ul-Sunnah Wa al-Jamma. The organisation itself spell it as: Ahl Us-Sunnah Wal-Jama'ah

• Also, what is the exact translation? Does it mean Adherents to the Sunnah and the community
• Or does it mean Followers of the Sunnah and the Community
• Or does it mean Eyes and Ears of Muslims
• Or does it mean The People of the Sunnah (Way of Prophet) and the Jama'ah (Community)

• I think it means 'The Ahlus (People/Followers) of the Sunnah (Way of Prophet) Wal (and the) Jama'ah (Community/Muslims/Congregation/Society)'

• An article on the meaning of it: The Meaning of Ahl us-Sunnah wal Jamaa'at.

• Their is also The Creed of Ahl-us-Sunnah wal-Jama'ah concerning the Sahabah by Shaykh 'Abdul-Muhsin bin Hamad Al'Abbad.
• Their is also another version here called The Creed of Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah concerning the Companions by Shaykh 'Abdul-Muhsin bin Hamad Al'Abbad.
• Also Ahlus -Sunnah Wal Jama'ah: The People of the Sunnah and the Jama'ah by Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad

Robert C Prenic (talk) 19:36, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

http://www.britannica.com/eb/topic-299702/jamaah

References

Merge into Sunni Islam

I suggest that this article me merged into the Sunni Islam article, for two reasons. First and foremost, because it is essentially the same term but "Sunni" is more commonly used by English speakers (since this is English-language Wikipedia).
The second is the POV laden in this article. It is, essentially, a polemically charged issue as various groups claim to be the ones "truly" following the Sunnah. Example, this article makes the claim that the Ash'aris and Maturidis are the two traditional schools of Aqidah, completely ignoring other groups within Sunni Islam such as the Atharis/Salafis. The article also openly claims that Ahl-e-Hadith and Salafis differ from Ahlus Sunnah in regard to fiqh madhhabs, and this is clearly opinion and not fact; as both of the above groups claim that they are Ahlus Sunnah while those who make taqlid of madhhabs aren't. This is just an example of the lack of neutrality here which unfortunately permeates most of the article. Most of it is opinion presented as fact.
Also as an aside, most of this article doesn't appear to be sourced. Given it's POV nature, I doubt any sources conforming to WP:RS, WP:NPOV, and/or WP:V could be found. With that in mind, I recommend a merge of non-POV and non-redundant content into Sunni Islam and redirect this article there. MezzoMezzo (talk) 06:20, 20 May 2008 (UTC)