Talk:Aimag

Cut-and-paste move

"Hi, I have reverted your copy & paste move from Aimag to Aimag (country subdivision). Since there is no possible confusion, there is no reason to disambiguate the title. What you left under "Aimag" also was merely a dictionary entry, which have no place on Wikipedia. Thanks for your understanding. --Latebird (talk) 13:25, 8 November 2009 (UTC)"

1. There is Aimag people and Aimag (country subdivision). I am concerned with ambiguity, which may lead to confusion. While the latter depends on the reader, the former is objective.
2. It was not a copy paste move, but an article split. I am well aware of how to move pages. I mentioned the fact that it is a split explicitly in the edit where I performed it.

TrueColour (talk) 13:35, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Aimag people is really Aymāq. The article mentions several alternative spellings but not "Aimag", so that seems to be uncommon and unlikely to lead to confusion. You may have intended a split, but there isn't enough unique material left in the remaining article to justify its existence. Wikipedia is not a dictionary, and a true disambiguation page would require that the same term really has several meanings, which is not the case. --Latebird (talk) 15:13, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Aimag = Oymak

in Turkish. Böri (talk) 12:04, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved, distinguish with hatnote. -- JHunterJ (talk) 19:34, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

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Aimag (country subdivision) → Aimag – The target now redirects here, since it contained no information besides variant spellings (which I have now mentioned here). The two different usages, "tribe" and "subdivision", are not sufficiently distinct to merit distinct articles. The history of the term can be discussed at one place, so the article that contains content (this one) should be moved to the main namespace (just aimag). Srnec (talk) 02:42, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

• Oppose - I was looking to close this out, but after reviewing it, I'm moved to strike up in opposition. The original "disambiguation" article should be restored and (probably) moved to Aimag (tribe). Then the requested move can take place with my support. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:04, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
  • But a list of spellings is neither a disambiguation page nor an article. Whose going to write the article on the tribe (which is arguably just a subdivision of a nation)? Srnec (talk) 22:58, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

• Support the old disambiguation page wasn't disambiguating anything at all. Per WP:PRECISE, "(country subdivision)" is unnecessary precision because there are no topics called "Aimag" that could be confused with this topic. --Enric Naval (talk) 15:38, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

(and note that wikipedia is not a dictionary, the articles shouldn't be short definitions of words). --Enric Naval (talk) 15:40, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

• Support: Srnec's and Enric's arguments convince. --RJFF (talk) 15:49, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Discussion

Any additional comments:

• Restore the Aimag disambiguation page. It did a good job. The primary meaning of aimag is tribe. The country subdivision is not the primary meaning. --Bejnar (talk) 08:46, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
  • It wasn't a true disambiguation page. If the primary meaning is tribe, then we need an article on that. I don't see a big difference between the meanings, just change over time. Srnec (talk) 18:45, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

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