Talk:Alternative versions of Superman
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Bizzaro Mistake?
editThe article stated that 'Unlike the others, (modern age) Bizarro #1's suit is purple toned and he has a name tag that says "#1"' And yet, the tag is defiantly present in the silver age Bizzaro's last appearance in "Whatever Happened to The Man of Tomorrow." I have thus removed the bit about the tag being unique to this post-crisis version of Bizzaro.
Silver Age Superman
editI cannot believe you left out the Silver Age Superman. CovenantD 22:43, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
If you say that the Modern Superman was introduced in Man of Steel in 1986, then the Silver Age Superman by definition is a different one. CovenantD 17:31, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
missing else worlds
editShould the superman versions of, the ‘what if’ (else world stories) that if superman as a baby had landed elsewhere, such as red son and the British superman? --deven
- Sure. Why not? Exvicious 03:04, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Would this image find home anywhere along this article?
editAlthough it's not Kal-L and the "superman" only found appearance in one issue, could this image be included along the article? DrWho42 20:14, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Do Not Merge
editI don't think that the multimedia versions of Superman should be "merged" with the other article. Their listing is appropriate here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Epiphone83 (talk • contribs) 20:45, 29 December 2006 (UTC).
Stan Lee's Superman
editShouldn't Stan Lee's reimagining of Superman be added to this list? Probably in elseworlds, right? mrmastodon32690
Would Superman of Earth-D qualify as an entry for Alternate Versions of Superman?
editSuperman of Earth-D (Earth-6) was created by writer Marv Wolfman in Legends of the DC Universe: Crisis on Infinite Earths as an analogue of Earth-1 and Earth-2 Superman (and also bore the name Clark and Kal-El). He was member of the Justice Alliance of America (that Earth's analogue of the Justice Society of America and Justice League). Superman of Earth-D appears ethnically black, but also hailed from Krypton. Unlike the Superman of Earth-1 and Earth-2, this version of Superman was a Kryptonian who came to Earth only three years prior to the events of Crisis on Infinite Earths. He died during the events of Crisis saving his wife, the Supergirl, from one of the Anti-Monitor's shadow warriors.
Cannonically, Earth-D ceased to exist after the events of Crisis (as did the rest of the multiverse), but after the events of Infinite Crisis and the re-emergence of the Multiverse, Earth-D may still exist within the DC continuity as one of the 52 worlds.
I referenced the Legends of the DC Universe: Crisis on Infinite Earths, as well as being referenced in the Wikipedia articles on List_of_black_superheroes (confirming the existence Superman and Supergirl of Earth-D) and the Multiverse (DC Comics) (confirming the existence of Earth-D) respectively.
Would Superman of Earth-D qualify as an entry for Alternate Versions of Superman?
Removal of Earth D and Sunshine Superman entries?
editWhy were these parts taken out of the main article? If they were moved somewhere, where to?
I don't think I have to point out how deleting these both on the same day, by the same person, looks, do I? I'm not saying that's how it is, just how it could be interpreted, esp. if those entries have been deleted completely and not just moved. I mean, I didn't see any reason given nor any discussion of it.
Sunshine Superman is a black version of Superman who comes from Dreamworld, a world based around drug culture of the 60s and 70s. He is a part of the Love Syndicate of Dreamworld, alongside Magic Lantern and Speed Freak, first appearing in Animal Man.
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- Superman of Earth-D was a black Superman, from an Earth with little experience in superheroics. He was married to his world's version of Supergirl, who was also black. The character was destroyed during Crisis on Infinite Earths and ceased to exist.
Move Kingdom Come Superman
editNow that DC is bringing the Kingdom Come Superman into the 'mainstream' continuity, should he be moved up top? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.61.111.132 (talk) 13:40, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Added Elseworlds information
editI just added notes on some more alternate incarnations. I also think that Stan Lee's version should be mentioned, although I dont have the time now.Cafeeine --88.218.64.87 22:53, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Earth-15 Supermen
editThere is no confusion over the identity of the Earth-15 Superman. There are two, and only one has so far appeared. The Superman who appears in Countdown #30 is "General" Zod in a classic Superman outfit and a goatee. The "Challengers" (Jason Todd, Donna Troy, Kyle Rayner) recognize him immediately as Zod. Unfortunately, I can't find a scan on-line. But you can compare that mental image to the Earth-15 Superman scheduled to appear in Countdown: Arena in December. Click the link for an image [1]. Keith Champagne, writer of Countdown: Arena, has identified this Superman as Christoper Kent in his blog (Sept. 14 entry) [2]. Since Chris Kent is the (natural) son of Zod in the main DC Universe, the same relationship may exist on Earth-15. I'll grant that there's a slight possibility Zod will shave and change outfits before appearing in Arena, and his "civilian" name may actually be Chris Kent (as opposed to say, Clark Kent). So I wouldn't mention Chris Kent of Earth-15 in this article until he actually appears. Nonetheless, there is no confusion that the guy who appears in Countdown #30 is Earth-15's version of General Zod. Since the Superman appearing in Arena is probably not the same guy, I don't think Arena should be mentioned at this time, either. Spiderboy12 16:04, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
"Herr Superman" vs. Earth-10
editOne editor removed the reference to "Herr Superman," found in Countdown: Lord Havok and the Extremists #3, commenting that this is the Earth-10 Superman. (Earth-10 is the 52 equivalent of Earth-X.)
The problem is that he was never identified as the Earth-10 Superman, nor is he depicted with the swastika-in-diamond shield used in every other depiction, not to mention that the Earth-10 Superman is a pure Aryan (blonde and all) while "Herr Superman" is black-haired.
I suggest replacing the reference to "Herr Superman," with a note about the similarity and ambiguities between him and the established Earth-10 counterpart. --Joe Sewell (talk) 18:02, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
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Superman Returns
editI read Superman 3 and 4 were ignored. They were not. Why the article appeared World without a Superman. Referring to after Superman destroyed the world's nuclear arsenal. Superman 3 and 4 were not ignored. They just were not needed. And, had subtle hints about 3 and 4 in it. Namely the satellite, in Superman 3 was the one which found Krypton. Superman 4 destroying the nuclear arsenal prompting The World without a Superman. All 4 Superman's are continuity. And, you can tell by Lois' voice why did you just get up and leave without telling me. Meaning they been together a lot longer than two movies. So now it is up to all the fans were Superman 1 and 2 used or all 4 making it a continuity with facts at hand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.101.163.144 (talk) 03:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, but that's speculation that isn't supported by anything. The satellite in Superman 3 was a weather satellite, which probably isn't used by astronomers. Besides, the satellite was pointed towards where astronomers thought Krypton was -- so the satellite didn't discover Krypton since it had already been discovered. And the reason why Lois wrote "Why the World Doesn't Need Superman" wasn't because he got rid of all the nuclear arms but because he had been gone for five years. DonQuixote (talk) 13:02, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
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Earth 15
editEarth 15's Superman was God, as seen in Countdown. --68.81.70.65 (talk) 02:11, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Superman prime(1,000,000)
editwhere would Superman Prime from 1,000,000 go in this article? 98.186.160.111 (talk) 07:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Overman - Am I crazy or was it vandalism?
editI remember reading this article a long time ago, or it could have been an article on the multiverse, but in it there was a mention of a version of Superman that was either called Overman or Ultraman who was exposed to a venereal disease and had turned evil and insane. Yeah, I know it sounds ridiculous, but I also recall that it also mentioned this was meant to be a sort of spoof of the overly-violent, grisly and dark Frank Miller comics of the 80's like "The Dark Knight Returns." Does anyone know if there is any validity to this and if there was what the comic book was? Wellesradio (talk) 01:13, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
- You're not imagining things. He appeared in Animal Man #24 as one of the heroes lost in limbo.02:39, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Alternative?
editThe word is "Alternate" not "Alternative." 71.66.119.88 (talk) 19:36, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
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Cosmic armor & prime one million & stranght visitor & silver age
editCosmic armor superman and superman prime one million???the steongests versions Mohamadwolf (talk) 14:10, 25 December 2019 (UTC)