- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. – robertsky (talk) 16:45, 12 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
– Initially, the articles were located at Amadou Koné (footballer) and Amadou Koné (soccer) respectively, but I knew that was wrong since we don't disambiguate by football vs soccer, so I moved them to Amadou Koné (footballer, born May 2005) and Amadou Koné (soccer, born January 2005), as per disambiguation per birth year (and month when need be). However, RedPatch recently moved the players to Amadou Koné (Ivorian footballer) and Amadou Koné (Canadian soccer), on the basis that since they have different nationalities, they can be disambiguated by nationality first. This is the standard, number one method of disambiguation for footballers we use at WP:WPF. Nationality first, and if that doesn't work, then birth year, birth month. I would agree with RedPatch in most situations like this. However, here, there is a "complicated" nationality scenario for the first Amadou Koné. He was born in Mali, grew up in Mali, represents Ivory Coast at international level, and holds both nationalities (all according to his article). The long-term consensus at WPF in these types of "double nationality, and discrepancy between birth country and country being represented" is to remove the nationality from the first sentence and to explain it further down in the lede (as is done here for Koné). If we (the project) agree that we can't classify the player as "Ivorian" in the first sentence, then, we also cannot classify him as "Ivorian" in the title of the article. My rationale for this move is basically just the overall consensus of the WikiProject in these nationality scenarios.
I'm not gonna explain further why we don't do Ivorian-Malian, most of you all know why.
Anecdote: all the notable players that hail from the Afrique Football Élite academy in Mali have some kind of connection to both Mali and Ivory Coast: either they're born in Ivory Coast with Malian descent, born in Mali with Ivorian descent, or born in Ivory Coast but emigrated to Mali (and the guy for which this latter scenario is the case has Malian descent according to the unreliable Transfermarkt).Paul Vaurie (talk) 18:36, 4 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
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