Talk:Ansel Adams

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Latest comment: 1 month ago by MenkinAlRire in topic Mural Project photographs
Good articleAnsel Adams has been listed as one of the Art and architecture good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Did You KnowOn this day... Article milestones
DateProcessResult
March 22, 2010Peer reviewReviewed
March 6, 2019Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on April 7, 2019.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Ansel Adams (pictured), known for his black-and-white landscape photographs, documented a Japanese-American internment camp during World War II?
On this day... A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on February 20, 2022.
Current status: Good article


Article issues needing attention

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  • There is a "Missing citations" tag ("Color images" subsection) dated May 2022. The good article criteria #2b states, reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
"All content that could reasonably be challenged", would actually mean there should be no instances of the possibility of challenges. The B-class criteria states, The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations. It has reliable sources, and any important or controversial material which is likely to be challenged is cited.
  • It has been well established that the lead does not "usually" need sourcing if content is covered with citations elsewhere in the article. I may have missed this reading the second paragraph of the lead, especially the last part: "... and his photographic practice was deeply entwined with this advocacy. "
  • The last sentence of the second to last paragraph in the "World war II" subsection in not cited and includes: "This series of photographs produced memorable images of Old Faithful Geyser, Grand Teton, and Mount McKinley".
  • The "Notable photographs" and "Published works" has some entries that do not have links or citations. It might be interesting to know: "Adams, Ansel (1948). The negative: exposure and development. New York; London: Morgan and Lester; The Fountain Press", is an edition of "Basic photo (1948)".
  • I am not sure that the "Further reading" section needs to be so comprehensive (30 entries), but that may be subjective.
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Some things just grow overtime. The "External links" section, one of the optional appendices, has seven entries. Three seems to be an acceptable number and of course, everyone has their favorite to add for four links.
The problem is that none is needed for article promotion.
  • ELpoints #3) states: Links in the "External links" section should be kept to a minimum. A lack of external links or a small number of external links is not a reason to add external links.
  • LINKFARM states: There is nothing wrong with adding one or more useful content-relevant links to the external links section of an article; however, excessive lists can dwarf articles and detract from the purpose of Wikipedia. On articles about topics with many fansites, for example, including a link to one major fansite may be appropriate.
  • ELMIN: Minimize the number of links. --
  • ELCITE: (Not relevant here) Do not use {{cite web}} or other citation templates in the External links section. Citation templates are permitted in the Further reading section.
  • WP:ELBURDEN: Disputed links should be excluded by default unless and until there is a consensus to include them.
Some of the current links include ones that may not benefit the article, possibly can be included in the article as sources, and should be looked at for trimming. -- Otr500 (talk) 11:17, 22 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

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Barry Stephanie tulk 65.73.45.62 (talk) 22:23, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Re: "Some of my best photographs"

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Adams made a candid portrait of O'Keeffe with Cox on the rim of Canyon de Chelly. Adams once remarked, "Some of my best photographs have been made in and on the rim of [that] canyon." Their works set in the desert Southwest are often published and exhibited together.

Unless I'm getting this confused with something else, I believe that many of these "best photographs" have not been seen or exhibited. Recently, I read about how some of the work from this famous set was ruined, and I got me wondering if attempts had been made to correct and restore it. I will reply with more info once I track it down, but it did stick with me and I wanted to make note of it here. Viriditas (talk) 23:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Mural Project photographs

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Some of the photographs shown here under Mural Project seem to me as if they were not printed by Adams, instead are probably printed (contact prints) by someone in the institution or else. If so, they would not represent Adams (the lemma) nor the standard of his art. Since there are some good pictures already, I would remove images that were not also printed by Adams. MenkinAlRire 17:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)Reply