Talk:Antonio Delgado

Requested move 4 March 2019

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No consensus to move at this time. However, it appears abundantly likely that if this subject continues his career in Congress (and is not 'dead in six months), then a future discussion would likely yield a different result. The case for the primacy of this article would also benefit from continued expansion. bd2412 T 04:41, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

• Antonio Delgado (politician) → Antonio Delgado
• Antonio Delgado → Antonio Delgado (disambiguation)

– With 98% of pageviews for the politician, this seems like an easy primary topic. In fact, the DAB page gets more views than any other topic. Nohomersryan (talk) 19:07, 4 March 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. SITH (talk) 10:11, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose. Too soon. He may be the most viewed now, but six months ago he didn't even rate a page here. Six months from now, who knows? -- Pemilligan (talk) 21:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

He is guaranteed to be in office six months from now, so I'd bet he still wins out then... Nohomersryan (talk) 22:05, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose. No indication that the newly-elected American legislator has such all-encompassing international recognition that he overwhelms the combined notability of the other four disambiguation page entries.. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:45, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

  Roman Spinner, sure there is. Here's the page view evidence. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:00, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

The page views may be skewed toward WP:RECENT, but all other objective standards do not point to the sudden emergence of a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Lacking international recognition or legislative achievements, subject is a two-month freshman among 435 representatives, very few if any of whom are dab page primary topics. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 18:14, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Roman Spinner, have you looked at the other articles? They're all stubs, save the Philippine ambassador to the Vatican, which is a poor quality article and doubtful to have the same significance as the U.S. legislator already has. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:06, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Muboshgu, if the overriding consideration in the choice of a dab page primary topic was to be comparison with the other entries on that dab page, then every dab page would have a primary topic with the remaining entries lined up in order of views, which may vary on a day-to-day basis. As we all know, however, most dab pages have no primary topic. The choice of primary is usually based upon a relatively high burden of proof with references to levels of national or international notability in various media sources.

While subject certainly has potential for future celebrity, the fact that his entry was not created until four-and-a-half months ago, on October 20, 2018, seventeen days before election day, suggests that, short of becoming an instant luminary in the manner of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, he requires more time to determine whether his primary-topic-worthy potential fame will materialize. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 20:11, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose per above, seems too soon to me. No harm in revisiting this at a later date, and if the page views hold you'll have a stronger case. PC78 (talk) 16:44, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support The page views are clear. Six months ago he didn't rate a page, but six months from now he'll still be in Congress (or be a former member of Congress) and that puts his notability above the others, clearly. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:00, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

  Muboshgu, WP:CRYSTALBALL? Six months from now he could be dead. -- Pemilligan (talk) 18:31, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Is the set of people who are dead incompatible with the set of former members of Congress? We have a few thousand pages to update... JesseRafe (talk) 18:48, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• Pemilligan, I said "or be a former member of Congress". Being elected to Congress is something death can't take from him. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:00, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

  Muboshgu, you mentioned his future status in support of this change when we don't know his future status. No one is arguing that he shouldn't have a page. -- Pemilligan (talk) 19:32, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

  Pemilligan, I mentioned that he already deserves it now because he's already more notable than the other Antonio Delgado's. Check the pages yourself. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:34, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support The others are significantly more minor political/civic leaders who have been dead for decades (which this Delgado can't match for decades yet despite above), or are minor former athletes. This individual is not only the only currently active one, he is much more prominent figure than any of the other four, and a much stronger candidate for a search in the English encyclopedia. He's a lock to continue to generate the lionshare of future pageviews, given the relevance of U.S. Congressmen compared to... mayors of small towns who never took office. JesseRafe (talk) 18:48, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support per interest in views. He is going to win for a while, so you might as well make it easy. --Quiz shows 19:57, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

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Requested move 11 June 2022

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The result of the move request was: moved. Primary topic status of this politician has been confirmed. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 16:12, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

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• Antonio Delgado (politician) → Antonio Delgado
• Antonio Delgado → Antonio Delgado (disambiguation)

– The Lieutenant Governor of New York is the primary topic for the name Antonio Delgado. Even before he was appointed to his current position, he has received significantly more views then others with the same name. If you use the pageviews.wmcloud.org, you will see that the New York politician receives more views which justifies WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. (for technical reasons I can't include the link but you can search all persons with the same name on pageviews.wmcloud.org). cookie monster 755 06:10, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

• Support My request from three years ago still holds up. He's the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Nohomersryan (talk) 00:04, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom. There are now multiple routes by which this subject is the clear primary topic of the name, and likely to remain so in an enduring way. BD2412 T 00:09, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
• Support My rationale of three years ago has proven correct. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:22, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
• Support: per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Marquardtika (talk) 16:01, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 18:44, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom and Marquardtika. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 11:59, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

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