Talk:Arabic literature

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robinp 05:32, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I've just seen this on Literature COTW. There's a lot of room for expansion: pre-Islamic literature, Qur'an, Hadith, Garshuni, the transmission of Greek, Persian and Indian scientific and philosophical works → to the modern novel in Arabic (Naguib Mahfouz &c.). Gareth Hughes 17:25, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I'm trying to work out a framework for improving this article. We could go through the fuckin genre by genre, but I feel that a chronological journey might be best. How about this:

1. Pre-Quranic literature — I feel that pre-Quranic makes more sense than pre-Islamic, and I think that the apostrophe marking hamza should be left out in this adjective form.
2. Qur'an and Hadith — a section on the profound literary influence of the Qur'an, and how hadith-style — pragmatic, eyewitness accounts — went beyond hadith literature and are found in other genres of early Islamic Arabic literature.
3. Umayyad literature — the development of adab literature, pragmatic and educational literature.
4. Classical literature (9th & 10th centuries) — the flowering of literary style, the risala essay, the maqamat epics and mediaeval drama.
5. Late mediaeval literature — the proccupation with preservation after the fall of Baghdad to the Mongols: encyclopedias, dictionaries and reference works. The age of the Arabic romance, a kind of dream time.
6. Modern literature — the ninteenth century revival of Arabic literature, the influx of European styles, and the uneasy relation between traditional and modern works. Jouranlism in Lebanon and Egypt races ahead. The Arabic historical novel develops. Traditional and modernist poetry thrives.

Is that any good as a layout? Gareth Hughes 18:36, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Is Quranic really better? I ask this because even in your next point you acknowledge the importance and influence of Hadith which undoubtedly helped greatly to make the change between pre-Quranic and post-Quranic writing. Also, what exactly is the scope of Arabic literature? The influence of Arab literature at least was disseminated from Spain to Indonesia. In the east the differences remain much more distinct but would you write about the impact to as far east as Pakistan maybe? since they inheritted the script? Since the beginning of the article says Arabic literature is literature written in Arabic, or by Arabs in other languages. That makes me unclear where heavy Arab influence ends and Arab itself begins. There is also the question of linguistics I'd imagine with the different dialects. I offer no answers, just curiosities. gren 19:19, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

A few novels have been written in English or French by Arabs, including "Beer in the Snooker Club by Waguih Ghali" (brother of Boutros Boutros Ghali) Arab ethnicity justifies "Arab Literature" just as being Jewish makes something "Jewish literature" even if it isn't in hebrew or pertaining to Judaism the religion or Jewish culture in any way. The lines are somewhat shaky I admit, but basically of the author allows it to be called such it is what it is. We on wikipedia can't set up guidelines when academics have not either. Angrynight 00:00, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

The idea that Al-Muttanabi was closest to imitating the Quran is somewhat POV. There is room for disagreement on this by scholars. The statement is not independantly verifiable. Therefore I have removed the sentence. If someone can find a source that says "there are those who say", by all means reintroduce it without absolutes. Angrynight 03:53, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Adab

Is the link given for adab in the article correct? The content at the link has no obvious relation to literature. - Jmabel | Talk 05:37, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't speak arabic but if you put the arabic script of the word adab in the arabic wikipedia it apparently goes to the literature article which links back to the equivalent lit page in en. MeltBanana 15:29, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Saj link

Saj links to an article on a kind of bread. --Madler 03:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Well if you look at the history for saj you can see it has been rewritten on a different subject. MeltBanana 14:54, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Georgy Zeidan, a Lebanese Christian writer

Georgy Zeidan

I'm looking for material about him. I can't believe that this is the only "Christian" Arabic novelist of his time. Do you have any hints or ideas? I would like to go into research about him and other Arabic novelists who have a Christian background. Of course, I would like to add the results here. Can someone tell me where to start? Ben2007 20:01, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Sinbad is not an arabic story

Sinbad is`nt an arabic story, I think you`d better research and investigate more about it because this story is about Sinbad-e-Bahri and he was Iranian. by the way Sinbad is an Iranian name not Arabic, and there is no one in Arab`s history that was named Sinbad.

The "Arabic" has to do with the literature, the language of the literature, not the nationality of the title character. The "Arabic" story refers to the story in Arabic, regardless of the story's antecedents. This is also true of other themes and topics on "Arabic literature," the title of this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.87.207.119 (talk) 20:34, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Quran

And as to the poets, those who go astray follow them.

That is not arabic literature... surely arabic literature, the quran, should be in arabic? Faro0485 (talk) 23:50, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Sure Quran is the word / book of Allah. Its not JUST a work Arabic Literature. Its a divine Masterpiece of its era till the end of time

182.178.49.151 (talk) 02:33, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Marrash family

I have prepared an article about writer and poet Francis Marrash. He and his sister seem to have been quite important in the Arabic literature, during the Nahda. I also began articles about his sister Maryana and his brother Abdallah. Feel free to contribute/use them. --Bryan P. C. C. (talk) 16:58, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Anti-arabic piece

"Literature in Arabic has been largely unknown outside the Islamic world. Arabic has frequently acted as a time capsule, preserving literature form ancient civilisations to be re-discovered in Renaissance Europe and as a conduit for transmitting literature from distant regions."

The statement that arabic has been largely unknown outsite the Islamic world is quite absurd. Ibn Sina - that was persian but wrote mostly in arabic - statues in Germany and China is an enough example. But more specifically to Europe, it's just to take a look at Thomas Aquinus texts, which mentions Averroes as much as Aristotle himself - what puts the notion of arabic as a "time capsule, preserving literature form ancient civilisations" as nothing more as racist trash. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.121.249.190 (talk) 06:57, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

There should be Judeo-Arabic literature in there?

Arguably enough, you can say it's Jewish literature. But Saadia Gaon wrote his works in extensive Arabic but he wrote it in the Hebrew script, he was an Arab Jew because he was born in Egypt and Arabic was his native language. I think there should be a section or perhaps a big mention of Judeo-Arabic literature in here. PacificWarrior101 (talk) 04:18, 1 May 2013 (UTC)PacificWarrior101

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Pre-Islamic literature

This article has nothing to say on pre-Islamic Arabic literature, despite its huge influence on later poetry. It needs to be added. Kanjuzi (talk) 20:39, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Requesting wider attention

I felt article Islamic_literature is in bit of neglect so I added my note on talk page there, requesting to take note of Talk:Islamic_literature#Article_review. If possible requesting copy edit support. Suggestions for suitable reference sources at Talk:Islamic_literature is also welcome.

Posting message here too for neutrality sake

Thanks and greetings

Bookku (talk) 07:20, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Jabra Ibrahim Jabra as part of the Nahda?

20th century writer and translator Jabra Ibrahim Jabra is mentioned in the paragraph on the Nahda. Is he not rather a writer of Arabic modernism, so that his work should be mentioned there? Munfarid1 (talk) 16:41, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I think you're right! --Cerebellum (talk) 09:41, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Africa

Is it worth mentioning that the Arabic script was initially used extensively in Sub-Saharan Africa, such as in Hausa literature, Swahili literature and Yoruba literature? Possibly under a small heading as a side note Alexanderkowal (talk) 01:12, 19 March 2024 (UTC)