Talk:Asoristan

Merge

Dab, it is not the same period in history. They are two completely different Persian empires. — EliasAlucard|Talk 14:51 10 Sept, 2007 (UTC)

Conversion to Islam

The Article states: "After 640 AD the area was taken over by the Islamic conquest and the majority of the population was forcefully converted to Islam"... But, does not offer any citation for this claim?. Without proper citation, this statement is a POV. --Theotherguy1 (talk) 15:50, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I think some citations are definitely needed. From my reading conversion was often discouraged because of tax policies: non-Muslims were taxed much more heavily than Muslims. So large-scale conversion would have resulted in a huge tax revenue loss. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.31.36 (talk) 22:14, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Mosul to Adiabene?

Are you sure about this? These cities are fairly close together, and both far, far upriver of Ctesiphon. Twin Bird (talk) 03:22, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Paganism in the 10th century?

The article makes this claim and there is no quote or page whatsoever. I will tag it momentarily. This is a pretty extraordinary claim-- I'll probably remove in a month or so if a proper citation doesn't come in.--Calthinus (talk) 08:32, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 29 May 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 17:01, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

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Asōristān → Asoristan – Per WP:USEENGLISH. --HistoryofIran (talk) 12:57, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose the macrons tell us long vowels. Removing them serves no benefit. In ictu oculi (talk) 18:24, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

@In ictu oculi: The long vowels are apparent in the lead though (as in every other article), which should be enough. We don't use macrons as a general rule, see WP:USEENGLISH. There aren't any Iranian-related articles with macrons for good reason. Academic sources generally don't use macrons either. --HistoryofIran (talk) 22:29, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

• Support per WP:TSC. Constantine ✍ 21:47, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment: I fail to see how WP:TSC applies to this. WP:TSC is in regards to characters that cause technical issues in titles, not characters used in other languages than English. Steel1943 (talk) 13:31, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
• Support --Z 17:23, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
• Support. I'm finding very few sources that use the macrons, though there are plenty of sources on Asoristan ([1] vs. [2])--Cúchullain ^t/c 15:48, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
• Support per reason stated, that being: WP:USEENGLISH. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 22:45, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

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It was Assyrians not arameans

the Persians called the land ashuristan (land of assyria) in Persian tf do arameans have to do with it lol 212.237.121.148 (talk) 20:19, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Asoristan and Babylonia, Assyria issue

this @ReelTalker user has reverted all my edits without giving an explanation, besides that, I'm accused of "Vandalism".

While none of the given sources or references say it was called "Assyria" nor the population was "Assyrian". According to the references given to this page it says (along with those references/sources he deleted):

1."The adjective āsōrīg in Pahlavi accordingly means “Babylonian” (cf. the Pahl. text Draxt ī Āsōrīg “The Babylonian Tree”). On the other hand Syriac Āṯōr means “Assyria”—hence the confusion of Āsōristān with Assyria, which one already notices in Ammianus Marcellinus, and which has prevailed among scholars until recently..... Āsōristān, in Aramaic called Bēṯ Aramāyē,..... The population of the province was a mixed one. The Greek element in the cities, still strong in the Parthian period, was absorbed by the Semites in Sasanian times. This element was composed of Arameans, Jews, and Arabs. The Arabs were nomads in the vicinity of the desert. The Jews were chiefly farmers, but to some extent also dwelling in cities, concentrated around Sura, Pumbadita, and above all Nehardea. The majority of the population were Arameans, speaking East Aramaic dialects, as did the Jews. The Iranians were found in the higher classes of society, as courtiers, army officers, civil servants, judges, and feudal lords, living partly in the country, partly in Ctesiphon, where they possessed houses." [1]

2." BĒṮ ĀRAMAYĒ, lit. “land of the Arameans,” the region and Sasanian province of Āsōristān in Iraq between the Jabal Ḥamrīn and Maysān".[2]

3. "Asoristan, a Sasanian province located in the southern part of Mesopotamia, in the region of Ancient Babylonia (not Assyria)." [3]

Jackhanma69 (talk) 22:44, 12 August 2024 (UTC)