Talk:Asics
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Peacock terms
editI'm not sure I agree that renowned is a peacock term. Have added sources to support the renown and removed the tag. Please feel free to add it back or reword it shuld you feel it appropriate, but I would prefer you discuss here first. Cmiych (talk) 14:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Sloppy
editThis article is sloppily written. Asics makes fine stuff, but names of sports, teams, etc. should be much better documented, and the typos were embarassing. Bellagio99 (talk) 00:38, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
news?
editHow much value does it nowadays have, that ASICS is the selected brand for aussi cricket team back in 2011? It was not notable back then, and it still makes no sense nowadays. Edoderoo (talk) 07:27, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Citation for intro paragraph
editThe about page for the company provides a citation for the opening paragraph, although I would change the Latin translation to " a sound mind in a sound body" to mirror what the company itself says — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.47.102.189 (talk) 03:33, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Relation with Onitsuka Tiger
editThe article does not make clear about the relation between Onitsuka Tiger and ASICS. It appears that Onitsuka Tiger was the early name used for ASICS in Japan? At some point, ASICS was known as Asics Tiger in some area. However, no citation has been found in this assertion.
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Repetition
editThe name is an acronym for the Latin phrase anima sana in corpore sano[2], which translates as "Healthy soul in a healthy body".
The name ASICS is an acronym of the Latin phrase anima sana in corpore sano[2] which translates to "healthy soul in a healthy body" and derives from Juvenal's aphorism mens sana in corpore sano.
I'm not sure why this is being repeated (especially in such a small article) but one of them must go. Gentleman wiki (talk) 14:31, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Requested move 7 July 2019
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The result of the move request was: page moved. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 23:34, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
ASICS → Asics – Even though the brand name comes from an initialism, it is not read as initials, neither in Japanese nor English, and, also, in the company's advertizing, the logo is stylized in lowercase letters. Aikclaes (talk) 12:02, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Support If anything, the title should be "asics" if it was stylized. However, I don't think 99% of people realize it's an acronym.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 15:33, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Facebook page and Twitter are Caps. So which is it? By the way, if I own a pair of these wonderful shoes, is it COI? MaskedSinger (talk) 14:54, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Support WP:TITLETM says
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. Independent RS overwhelmingly do not render the name in full caps. e.g. I searched nytimes.com and checked the first 10 articles mentioning the company, and all used "Asics". Colin M (talk) 17:37, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
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Grammar rules
editFollowing recent moves and capitalisation discussion, and the resolution that has now been achieved I thought it worthwhile to point out that we do not follow grammar rules invented by the marketing dept of a clothing company. -Roxy, the dog. wooF 11:11, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Appeals to pronunciation as a word fall flat as an argument in the case of many other acronym based names where they are consistently represented capitalised (eg. ASIC, the Australian Securities & Investment Commission or FUBAR which you will find is also capitalized on it's Wikipedia page.) The company's name is an acronym, that's why their brand guidelines stipulate it being capitalized, and should be represented as such. Shoeinu (talk) 08:18, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Um no, see section above. Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 08:35, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry can you explain? This is totally inconsistent. Shoeinu (talk) 08:54, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- The position of Asics rather than ASICS runs against the Wikipedia style guide — (Capitalize IKEA, IBM, as acronyms/initialisms.) Shoeinu (talk) 09:38, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- The section above explains why we use "Asics". Also see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS which basically says that it doesn't matter what we do on other pages, we are discussing this page. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 09:41, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Capitalization of a single name has nothing to do with grammar and everything to do with style. If you want to appeal to the NYT as 'common usage' there are plenty of examples in the NYT of the name all capitalised. The name was capitalised from the start, as you can see as far back as the 70's because it is an acronym, they were following the widely accepted rules of style or 'grammar' in your parlance. If someone new to the name thinking it's a word because they haven't seen it written down, then writes it in capital case, that shouldn't be the new standard, that just means they don't know it was an acronym. The only reason I came to this article was to understand why ASICS is capitalised in places, that are not ASICS own marketing, and that's because it's an acronym. So it would make a lot of sense that references within the article to name reflect that. So you're basically saying you can just make things up when you want to on any article? I've made my point and if other people that support this arrive later change it. 2400:4050:A201:6100:A0BB:38CA:F741:D7EB (talk) 12:36, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry can you explain? This is totally inconsistent. Shoeinu (talk) 08:54, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
Incorrect website in InfoBox
editThis edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Although the InfoBox shows asics.com as the official website, it actually links to the U.S. version of the site (https://www.asics.com/us/en-us/). This is assuming that U.S. English speakers are the only ones reading the en. version of this article. I'd like to propose changing the link back to https: //www.asics.com, as it was up until October 2020. Thanks and always up for a discussion. SBCornelius (talk) 19:08, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- This seemed like a fair and uncontroversial request. JByrne404 (talk) 03:02, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you! SBCornelius (talk) 17:12, 10 November 2022 (UTC)