Talk:Assyrian people

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Latest comment: 7 days ago by TahaKahi in topic Brainwashed Arameans

These people are Arameans

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These people are Arameans who got the ‘Assyrian’ identity from Britain in the 19th century 31.161.141.96 (talk) 19:54, 17 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Inclusion of "Sumerian" under "Languages"

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Why does the article list Sumerian as a language spoken by Assyrians?

The article delves into Assyrian identity, including its formation during the Old Assyrian period (Michel 2017). During this period and after it, Akkadian is spoken e.g. Erišum I's inscription, writings from Assyrian traders in Kaneš, et cetera. There are also pre-Old Assyrian texts written in Akkadian e.g., Zarriqum 2001 from the Third Dynasty of Ur. I'm not sure of any evidence of Sumerian being natively spoken in communities by Assyrian-identifying people (OA or later), nor am I sure as to why it would be included while languages like Arabic, spoken by many Assyrians natively, aren't included. Shamash Uballit (talk) 04:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Brainwashed Arameans

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Modern ‘Assyrians’ are brainwashed Arameans that adopted a false identity which Britain created in the 19th century. Ancient Assyrians are extinct. Many scholars write about it. Read 1. Adam H. Becker: origins of Assyrian nationalism. 2. John Joseph: The modern ‘Assyrians’ of the Middle-East. 3. Bengt Knutsson: Assur eller Aram? 4. Stefan Andersson: Asurlular 5. John Joseph: Syria and Assyria synonyms? 6. Johny Messo: Arameans and the making of ‘Assyrians’. 7. Aaron Butts: ‘Assyrian’ Christians 89.200.13.102 (talk) 12:55, 6 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Christian texts used the term 'Assyrian' to describe people from Mesopotamia who had converted to Christianity. For example, Eusebius of Caesarea (circa 260–340 CE) refers to 'Assyrian Christians' and other communities in Mesopotamia. Pietro della Valle, a 17th-century traveler, wrote about his encounters with the Assyrians during his visits to the Near East. However, I don’t think this is a constructive way to argue about the subject. Use less hateful words instead of "brainwashed" and "extinct". TahaKahi (talk) 21:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)Reply