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editThe picture is from west of Albuquerque, not Amarillo. I'm not certain this is the same one, but here's an aerial photo of one of the NM grade intersections: [1] Alanhwiki 05:06, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
I have personally been there. It is NOT west of Albuquerque, its west of Amarillo and I'm sure this is the same sign that I have seen. It is on a section of I-40 between Boise and Glenrio, TEXAS. I remember because when I drove Route 66 to Albuqueque it was on a section where you could not drive 66 because it was cut up to build Interstate 40. If there can be no proof of its location, I think any statement regarding its location should be removed. Being this appears to be the same picture from a website, it may additonally be a copyvio.Rt66lt 21:23, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Alanhwiki appears to be the owner of http://www.arizonaroads.com/ and thus it is his photo. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 22:51, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
From Texas & NM DOTs
editI received this e-mail from the Texas Department of Transportation. I have not yet heard from the New Mexico DOT:
- Thank you for your question. There are no freeway frontage roads on I-40 in Texas from the New Mexico state line to about 20 miles into Texas. There are several ranches in this area, and they have direct access to the freeway. The answer to your question is, yes, we do have at-grade crossings along I-40 in West Texas. I hope this helps.
Rt66lt 14:39, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, there exist at-grade crossings in West Texas, but this one might be in New Mexico, especially when the photographer says he took it in New Mexico, assuming good faith. There is another photo of an identical at-grade crossing taken by a different photographer who also claims he took it in New Mexico -- [2] from [3]. See Image talk:Grade intersection on I-40.jpg. There is also the possibility of the at-grade crossings in West Texas looking similar to those in New Mexico. -- Paddu 03:59, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
NMDOT says the sign is not theirs:
- Do you know if the sign shown in the attached picture exists on our stretch of I-40? I’ve never seen it. Please advise. Thanks!
- Anissa and John, it does not appear that the picture you sent is in D-4…….. The original sender is right. It looks a lot like Texas. The folks over at TXDOT do things differently.
It was forwarded to me after they passed it around the department. Picture is NOT from New Mexico.Rt66lt 23:20, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
- "The folks over at TXDOT do things differently." seems to convey that NMDOT doesn't like at-grade crossings, unlike TXDOT. But there is at least this at-grade crossing in New Mexico: [4]. -- Paddu 06:50, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
- The issue is the sign image. NMDOT says that it isn't their sign.Rt66lt 07:26, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Old photo?
editI wonder if this sign existed earlier but was then removed. This seems to be consistent with the 2000/2003 Usenet threads and photographers talking about the sign in NM and the Wikipedians and the people from the DOTs who say this doesn't exist in NM in 2005-6. -- Paddu 07:21, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
- As a reference, here are the links to the various opinions:
- 2000 Usenet thread and 2003 Usenet thread saying it is in NM.
- Image talk:Grade intersection on I-40.jpg and User talk:Alanhwiki -- the photographer of this photo saying he took the photo in NM. His webpage says these photos were taken between October 2003-present. He uploaded the image into Wikipedia in May 2005 so the photo was taken between October 2003 and May 2005.
- Another photographer saying he took a similar photo in NM, in June 2003.
- Image talk:Grade intersection on I-40.jpg and this page -- User:Rt66lt saying he/she has NOT see this sign in NM but did see an identical one in TX, since August 2005.
- this page -- NMDOT saying this sign is NOT in NM, in February 2006.
- User talk:Paddu/Archive1#At-Grade Crossings -- User:Camerafiend saying he/she has NOT seen this sign near Albuquerque, in February 2006.
- -- Paddu 07:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Merge
editThis article is a stub with a meaningless distinction as the only reason not to merge with Intersection (road). Lfstevens (talk) 20:20, 11 April 2014 (UTC)