Talk:Bachman–Turner Overdrive

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I took out the reference to straigt edge. Straight edge has very negative connotations of violence and intimidation that Randy Bachman has never had anything to do with        — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.79.14.15 (talk) 22:51, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

2006

Since when is "Taking Care of Business" a more famous song than "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" ? Niall123

although Takin' Care of Business (awesome song) is more popular and famous than You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet, You Ain't topped the chart's at #1 spot, while TCB never reached #1

Should there be a note about the movie High Fidelity: "We are no longer Sonic Death Monkey. We are on the verge of becoming Kathleen-Turner Overdrive, but just for tonight, we are Berry Jive and his Uptown Five"--Atticus2020 08:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

One mention in a minor movie? No, no, no,no no. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:24, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

TCB has been more featured and commercially viable since its release, being featured in advertising campaigns and movies, it is still used in some Office Depot advertising spots. Bottom line, YASNY was a #1 hit, but TCB has proven to be more multi-faceted and long lasting. Hell, Elvis used the phrase as the logo for the necklaces his band and close friends wore for security reasons.

why is there a citation needed for them being on the Simpsons? It just seems like such a minor claim, why even bother? But now that you mention it, http://www.snpp.com/episodes/BABF09, viola, BTO. Jlee562 23:56, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Lineups

Can we get a lineups table please? This seems to be another longrunning band with a lot of personnel changes... --kingboyk 22:30, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

NOT The Guess Who

BTO did NOT start out as the Guess Who. Randy Bachman was part of the Guess Who, but he left over creative differences with the band's singer and other main songwriter, Burton Cummings. In fact, the Guess Who existed at the same time (although with many different lineups) as BTO.

That change was made three days ago by an anonymous contributor, and I guess nobody noticed it. FWIW, anyway. Bearcat 07:27, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation

I removed the trivia section (they are discouraged), but just to add the the pronunciation thing is wrong. Here in Canada at least BACKman Turner Overdrive is right. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

If someone wants to add the proper phonetics in place of my spelled attempt please feel free. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:24, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Why is it "the American pronunciation"? "Bachman" is a name of German origin, and pronouncing it "Back" may be "Canadian", but it is not German. Nor is it "American". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.160.98.31 (talk) 03:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Of course you are right the name is probably of German origin, but like it or not it's now a Canadian name also and has got a different pronunciation. It's not the only European name that has been screwed up after crossing the Atlantic. But it's simply something we have to accept! Narking (talk) 17:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I added a reference to the Wikipedia article on Canadian raising. Hopefully this will make it easier for Canadians to understand why almost no one outside of Canada pronounces the name as preferred by the Bachman family. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.160.96.193 (talk) 20:48, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

That makes no sense. Canadian raising applies to diphthongs, which the vowel in "Bachman" is not. It is a vowel shift of some sort, but it is not Canadian raising. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.51.88.36 (talk) 04:12, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I will change the "Canadian raising" reference to "Canadian shift", since this term more often is applied to single vowels than diphthongs. There are several different kinds of vowel shifts described in both articles. There is some disagreement on exactly what the terms mean. Varieties of the pattern can sometimes be found outside Canada, so this is intended to be a rather loosely defined term. "Canadian shift" is still the best way to explain why there is a pronunciation of the Bachman name that is, for the most part, unique to Canada. --216.160.93.32 (talk) 09:54, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Original Research Claims

This article now has EIGHT references. Can we lose the "Original Research" banner at the top? Howenstein115 (talk) 17:57, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Albums

I separated the studio albums, live albums, and compilation albums from each other. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.53.106.205 (talk) 21:47, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I added a column to the studio albums table, though really all the tables need it too, that shows what band name the album was released under. In essence, any line-up without Randy B was called "BTO", not Bachman–Turner Overdrive. This confusion is why Amazon have got completely screwed up in naming the band!

I also fixed the title of the 1984 album. My original vinyl states it is called BTO by Bachman–Turner Overdrive on the label. Reszerve (talk) 01:00, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

En dash in name?

This might be a completely trivial point, but should there be an en dash (Bachman–Turner Overdrive) rather than a hyphen (Bachman-Turner Overdrive) in this band's name, since it links two names a là Bose–Einstein condensate? (in this case, it links the Bachmans (Randy, Tim, and Robbie) with Fred Turner) It seems like it would comply with WP:ENDASH to me. Xnux the Echidna 00:12, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Upon landing on this page, my immediate reaction was "Oh jeez, who put a dash in there? I need to log in and fix that...." As I see it, Bachman-Turner Overdrive is a compounded proper name of a single entity: an individual band name derived from two family surnames. The place to use an en dash would be in directly describing the arrangement or partnership. For example, "The songwriting credit for 'Let It Ride' goes to Bachman–Turner." Meh, show me another reputable article anywhere in the universe where they put an en dash in "Bachman–Turner Overdrive" and I may acquiesce. FoxDon (talk) 20:30, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

The decision to put an en dash in the name is wrong-headed. If it were an actual credit – for example, under a song to show who had written it – then by all means take the grammatically correct route. But this is a band name. Would you correct Nothing Compares 2 U? No. The band either used a regular (-) dash or a bullet point, so that's what the article should use. — anon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:634E:1600:4423:F832:9203:D3CA (talk) 14:00, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

@FoxDon: Maybe you can file a move request. - Mlpearc (open channel) 20:38, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

@Mlpearc: Heh, it was already moved once in the opposite direction, as shown below. I was just stating my view, not hoping to start an edit war. My view could be wrong. FoxDon (talk) 07:43, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was move. Jafeluv (talk) 15:51, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

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Bachman-Turner Overdrive → Bachman–Turner Overdrive — As per the above section, this article should have an en dash in the name as per WP:ENDASH (like Bose–Einstein condensate). The name of this band links the Bachmans (Randy, Tim, and Robbie) with Fred Turner. Xnux the Echidna 19:15, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

• Support per WP:DASH. It's not a hyphenated phrase. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 08:13, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

uk hits

i know yasny was a uk hit but did they have any other hit singles in uk and how did there albums sell 92.0.250.250 (talk) 14:17, 15 September 2009 (UTC) andy 15 9 2009 92.0.250.250 (talk) 14:17, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Free Wheelin'

A reader contacted Wikimedia ticket:2015020110000644 suggesting that "Free Wheelin'" should be listed as a single release in 1974. It appears to me it is the B-side of "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet", and may not deserve a separate entry. I'm out of my depth, but wanted to raise the issue so interested editors can make sure we have it right.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:28, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Blue-eyed soul

I view them as blue-eyed soul. The Mo-Ja'al (talk) 18:09, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Still active?

The info box lists current and past members. However, the first sentence of the article indicates they are no longer active. If so, ALL members should be listed as PAST members. Johnnyboy755 (talk) 00:48, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Garry Peterson leaving

Garry broke his ankle playing in a charity softball game while BTO was on tour on a day off.No one from the band came to see him at the hospital in Texas and went home by himself on crutches.Tim Bachman came to him later and said “Randy says you’re out and that Billy Chapman was a better drummer anyway”.So,instead of letting a temp fill in till mended, he fires him and causes (again in his life)financial hardship. Takenitback (talk) 11:39, 11 February 2024 (UTC)