Talk:Horseshoe Las Vegas

Pronunciation

How is the name pronounced, is the first part pronouned like ball with ee on the end or bal with ee on the end?--NeilEvans 19:51, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I would like to replace the image on this page

I just visited Vegas and shot over 200 pictures, including one of the Bally's property. My photo is sharper, color balanced, and isn't as washed out (that is, it's not shot straight into the sun like the one on this page). If no one objects I'm putting in my photo in a week. --Coolcaesar 07:19, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

• If you have a better picture why wait? You can replace it and move the existing picture elsewhere. Vegaswikian 08:05, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Merge?

There is no reason for merging these articles. The name change delineates a significant change resulting from the fire. One could argue that under the old name the hotel is clearly more notable, significant and really represents a significantly different property that can be kept as two articles. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:30, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

The articles were nearly identical when discussing the old MGM Grand, and the fire is discussed in a separate article entirely which was unaffected. SchuminWeb (Talk) 11:07, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Skyscraper

Perhaps I should have been more clear about this edit. Nothing in the article says that the hotel towers are skyscrapers, so the category is unsourced. Bally's is not listed in that navigation box, so the box is irrelevant here. Are the towers frequently referred to as "skyscrapers"? I did some searches and couldn't find anything. From what I can tell, skyscrapers are generally about 330 feet tall, or 40 stories. The Bally's towers would seem to qualify as high-rises (based on Wikipedia's article) but not specifically as skyscrapers.  AJFU  (talk) 17:41, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

• @AJFU: It looks like there are some firms which have proposed definitions for skyscrapers, but it doesn't look like a "skyscraper" is specifically defined anywhere. The Wikipedia article specifically defines "skyscraper" but I think this is problematic and I've noted so on the talk page, as it appears the change was made without any discussion a few years ago, and then there has been some squabbling over what skyscraper actually means. For instance, the MGM Grand fire is listed under Skyscraper fires on this site, is referred to as a skyscraper fire elsewhere, and I always assumed the Sahara was the first skyscraper on the Strip, which the NY Times confirms in Martin Stern's obituary. [1] That's pretty much why I reverted - I didn't understand why the Sahara or the Mint would have been a skyscraper and the MGM Grand/Bally's not a skyscraper, and I hadn't researched the definition at that point, so I assumed it was a mistake. SportingFlyer T·C 13:24, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Indeed, there are conflicting definitions. As for this particular article, I think more research is needed to see how sources refer to it. I have not had luck finding any sources that use the terms "skyscraper" or "skyscraper fire", but I'm still looking.  AJFU  (talk) 16:43, 12 October 2020 (UTC)