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A fact from Battle of Hehil appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 3 April 2010 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the location of the 8th century Battle of Hehil is unknown?

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Category:Battles involving Wessex

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Metabaronic left this message on my talk page:

You undid a category revision on Battle of Hehil referencing "uncertain categorisation". This revision is being applied across the board to diffuse Category:Battles involving the Anglo-Saxons into battles involving the Heptarchy Kingdoms where they can be applied. I've reverted this revision as the West Saxons are synonymous with Wessex, but welcome to discuss this further at Category:Battles involving Wessex - better to apply the outcomes of a disagreement for the entire category than under a single article. Metabaronic (talk) 19:25, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Of course, we could apply the outcomes to the entire category when the disagreement was about the whole category, but this one is only about the Battle of Hehil. There's no evidence that that battle was between the Britons and the Saxons, let alone between the Britons and the West Saxons. The Annales Cambriae tell us the Britons won, but who the other combatants were is a matter for informed guesswork. An encyclopedia can refer to speculation but can't possibly treat it as fact, so the best thing here will be to use neither Category:Battles involving the Anglo-Saxons nor Category:Battles involving Wessex. I'll make that correction. Moonraker2 (talk) 19:56, 24 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

The other Geraint?

Latest comment: 5 months ago4 comments4 people in discussion

In the Significance section there is reference to a Geraint. It is currently wikilinked to the Arthurian character. I imagine a more likely Geraint in this context might be Geraint of Dumnonia. Does anybody (@Moonraker for instance) know for certain? Frans Fowler (talk) 20:43, 11 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Well spotted, Frans Fowler! Yes, this must mean Geraint of Dumnonia, so I have linked him. Moonraker (talk) 21:09, 11 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Could "Hehil" 'among the Cornish' refer to Cot-hele- as the River Tamar divides the locality, and similarity in language/ pronunciation from ancient Hehil cot- next to / by Hehil 'he-le' ?? 2A00:23C5:CA93:1101:4960:73F0:B332:1E70 (talk) 14:33, 1 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

That would need a reference. Dudley Miles (talk) 16:52, 1 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

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