Talk:Battle of Roan's Tan Yard/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Gog the Mild (talk · contribs) 21:47, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Got it. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:47, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

• Infobox: "c. 128" doesn't work. You can't be "about" an exact number.
  • Removed the circa
• "Sterling Price's pro-Confederate Missouri State Guard" is trying to do a lot of work. Maybe 'pro-Confederate Missouri State Guard commanded by Sterling Price'?
  • Went with something similar
• "a previous Missouri State Guard defeat at the Battle of Mount Zion Church the preceeding December". "a previous ... the preceeding December'. You only need one.
  • Removed "previous". Also realized the preceding was misspelled
• Randolph County is duplinked.
  • Fixed
• "into the southwestern portion of the state" → 'into southwestern Missouri'?
  • Done
• "while at Neosho, Jackson and the pro-secession state legislators" This could do with a little further explanation.
  • Mentioned that they were there cause Lyon had kicked them out of the capital.
• Caption: "Map of Roan's Tan Yard Battlefield core and study areas" "Core and study areas" - you what?
  • Rephrased. It had apparently been there since 2017, and I didn't pay the caption much attention.

Me too with my own noms.

More to follow. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:14, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

• "serve in Price's command" → either 'his command' or specify the unit.
  • Fixed. I didn't realize I named Price twice in that sentence
• "About 4 miles (6.4 km)". Optional: set |sigfig=1.
  • Done
• "Torrence deployed his men and formulated his plan of attack"> I know what you mean, but wouldn't he have formulated his plan before deploying his units.
  • Removed "formulated his plan of attack", as it's not really needed
• "Once the attack hit around 16:30". This reads as if it were a continuation of hte plan; you need something to let the reader know that you have switched to an account of actual events.
  • Started the sentence off with "The". Does this help with anything?
• "Once the attack hit around 16:30, the Missouri State Guardsmen put up little resistance, and the camp was captured after a fight of only thirty or forty minutes; large quantities of supplies were taken in the abandoned camp." Overlong sentence IMO.
  • Split
• "using fog to cover their retreat". You either need to elaborate a little here on the fog, or introduce it earlier - perhaps when switching from the formulating to the action?
  • Done
• "After the battle, the camp destroyed; Missouri State Guard recruiting activities in Randolph County ceased." Umm. Maybe 'After the battle, the camp was destroyed and Missouri State Guard recruiting activities in Randolph County ceased.'? Although I am not sure that I see the connection between these two things.
  • Done. The sources make a connection, which I've tried to clarify
• "the setbacks led to a reduction of pro-Confederate activities in the central Missouri region overall" Optional: delete "overall".
  • Done
• "between 80 and 100 Missouri State Guard soldiers were killed or wounded in the action". Delete "in the action".
  • Removed
• "Poindexter's loss at 80 total". Maybe 'at a total of 80'?
  • Done
• "although one source places the loss at as high as 27". "the" → 'their'.
  • Fixed. I'm terrible at copyediting myself.

Gog the Mild (talk) 10:54, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

• • @Gog the Mild: - All done to date. The sourcing is weak enough on this one that GA's probably a bit of a stretch, but I think there's enough here to just barely scrape by that standard. Hog Farm _Bacon 13:57, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

    Hog Farm: That all looks good. The sourcing is fine, although I wouldn't want to push the National Park Service - which you have used judiciously - past GAN.

    There is very little on the actual battle, less than a sentence and a half. I can live with that, but you don't address whether the Union assault unfolded as planned. Is this known? Gog the Mild (talk) 14:14, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

    • @Gog the Mild: - Not in the secondary sources I can get my hands on. I'll look in the Official Records of the War of the Rebellion to see if I can find Torrence's report (I doubt Poindexter's exists, the Missouri Confederates were terrible about writing reports). I don't think the records physically exist to take this above GA, much like there's just not enough information in existance to take Slayback's Missouri Cavalry Regiment to FAC. Hog Farm _Bacon 14:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

      • @Gog the Mild: - Got as much as probably exists added. Hog Farm _Bacon 14:40, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

That will do nicely. Passing. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:52, 12 October 2020 (UTC)