Talk:Belfast Great Victoria Street railway station

Great Victoria Street???

Nowadays, this station is just called Great Victoria Street, leaving out the Belfast. Anybody have any objections if the Belfast is removed from the title? Jimmy1109 (talk) 00:12, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree with this - but unfortunately it looks like the article was moved back to Belfast Great Victoria Street in 2010... now needs administrator privileges to move it to a better name. There are no other "Great Victoria Street" stations on Wikipedia, so why is there a need for Belfast to be in the name at all? Will request an administrator move. Fattonyni (talk) 13:13, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move. Cúchullain ^t/c 13:58, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

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Belfast Great Victoria Street Station → Great Victoria Street railway station – The Great Victoria Street station does not include "Belfast" in the name. There are no other "Great Victoria Street" stations on Wikipedia, so no need for disambiguation to Belfast. In addition, the capitalisation of "Station" is currently incorrect. Reasoning for "railway station" as opposed to "station" is that the majority of other Northern Ireland station articles use "railway station" (see Category:Railway stations served by NI Railways). Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 06:11, 30 August 2012 (UTC) Fattonyni (talk) 13:24, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

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• Unsure about removing "Belfast" Can we have some actual sources as to the name of the station? And is this another case of the stations in a big city being locally best known (and sometimes signposted at street level) by names that don't include the city name, but on the wider network it's standard to include the name? (Does "Belfast stations" or an equivalent exist in the ticketing system?) If it's an issue between the "home" and "away" name then for transport the "away" name should take precedence. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:40, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
• Great Victoria Street Station, Belfast would be better. Without "Belfast" in the title, even as an Englishman, I would have no clue as to where it was. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:12, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Is that a form actually used? The Dublin stations are all at "Dublin [Name] railway station" (although the intros seem to have been infected by locations discussions) and the other Belfast station is at Belfast Central railway station. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:11, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Botanic railway station, City Hospital railway station and Titanic Quarter railway station don't have the "Belfast" prefix - my opinion is that where the locations are specific, i.e. "Such and Such Street station" then that name would suffice (unless a suffix is required for clarity, as per Peterkingiron's suggestion), but where the name is "Central station" then it needs a descriptor to show that it's the central station "of Belfast". Fattonyni (talk) 12:29, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Those stations look more like suburban ones rather than the city's main ones - similar to the many stations in Dublin not called "Dublin" and the pattern in other big cities for the city name to normally only be used in relation to the big central stations. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:27, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

• Comment. The NI Railways website calls it "Belfast, Great Victoria Street" in its timetables, along with "Belfast, Central",[1] but simply "Great Victoria Street" on its route map, as opposed to "Belfast Central".[2] -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:14, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
• Comment. Signage at the station does not include Belfast, although by Timrollpickering's suggestion above I guess this constitutes "home" best-known names: oustide the station, on the platform, on a tourist sign on the street outside (you'll need to squint a bit for the last one). Fattonyni (talk) 12:29, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Discussion

• Comment This article seems to have been on a tour of names, with the talkpage not always moved and some cases of copy & paste edits. I'm going to try and remerge it all. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:29, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.