Talk:Better than Revenge/GA1

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Reviewer: Paparazzzi (talk · contribs) 03:55, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Review coming soon. --Paparazzzi (talk) 03:55, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

• You can elaborate on the performance routine for "Better than Revenge" on the Speak Now Tour, what she wore, if she dances or if she plays certain instruments, etc
• You can expand the Background section by adding the personnel from the Speak Now booklet

• The booklet only says "Writer and Composer: Taylor Swift". There are personnel i.e. band members, but they are at the end of the booklet without mentioning who plays what on individual tracks. Probably there are credits on Tidal, but I do not have a subscription to it.. Ippantekina (talk) 05:48, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

• Expand the Music and lyrics section by adding the length of the song and the key, vocal range and tempo

• I'm not sure the sheet music is of this song as it was originally published. From its About page it seems this sheet music (and others) is for personal practice on acoustic instruments and not the original arrangements. Ippantekina (talk) 05:56, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

• Isn't there any reliable source talking about Camilla Belle being the alleged subject matter of the track?

• I'm afraid that falls under WP:SPECULATION; unlike "Enchanted" to which the rumored subject responded, Ms. Belle has not publicly responded to this specific song, so I'd keep that out of the encyclopedic entry. Ippantekina (talk) 05:41, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

• From the lead section: "Music critics complimented the song's melody but took issue with its slut-shaming lyrics", I have read the Critical reception section and there's no critic mentioning the melody of the track. Paparazzzi (talk) 04:28, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

• The critic from Slant talked about Swift's vocal performance during the line "She looks at me like I'm a trend/And she's so over it," not exactly about her songwriting skills

• Whoops, nice catch. Ippantekina (talk) 05:41, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

• "... was directed at a romantic rival.[6]" and "The lyrics are about Swift's plea for vengeance against a romantic rival."... the source doesn't mention that

•  Done

• Ref 1 doesn't mention the release date of Speak Now

•  Done

• I can't verify the info from source 3

• "... she wrote all the songs without collaborators and moved her story lines out of high school." Added an archiveurl. Ippantekina (talk) 05:41, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

More coming soon. Paparazzzi (talk) 05:04, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

• " Swift's vocals on the song expanded considerably compared to her previous songs.[11] " The critic doesn't compare the vocal performance to Swift's previous tracks, they only praise Taylor's vocals but doesn't make comparisons

•  Done

• "Compared to her previous songs about romantic fantasy, "Better than Revenge" features a more real-life perspective on love.[12] " Can't find that on the source. Paparazzzi (talk) 04:50, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

• "In these new songs relationships are no longer fantasies, or neutered; they’re lived-in places, where bodies share space." The critic is discussing the album as a whole and cites BTR as one of such songs. Ippantekina (talk) 05:41, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

• "Allison Stewart of The Washington Post considered the said lyrics immature, but acknowledged that the song overall captures emotional sentiments shared by many people and expands Swift's artistry from the "unearthly sweetness" of her other songs." I read the source and the critic wasn't talking about the track, but about the album overall

• Reworded. Ippantekina (talk) 05:41, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

• "In a more positive vein, Mikael Wood from Spin deemed "Better than Revenge" larger-than-life and entertaining." I don't think I can summarize the review to that, because that comment doesn't representa what the critic said

• He wrote "... while Swift taps into something nervy and intense when she goes nasty." While it may not be larger-than-life, it is indeed (according to the critic) entertaining. Ippantekina (talk) 05:41, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Verdict

• Putting this on hold. Regards, --Paparazzzi (talk) 04:45, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

• Thank you for the review. I responded to all of your comments above. Best, Ippantekina (talk) 06:08, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

• • • I give this a pass. Congrats! --Paparazzzi (talk) 23:30, 16 January 2022 (UTC)