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Beyonce Knowles highest paid performer per minute

• Source. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 03:15, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

 Done Oz ^talk 11:30, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/beyonce-knowles-highest-paid-performer-per-minute-6260663.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.200.163 (talk) 12:06, 13 November 2011 (UTC) http://www.financialexpress.com/news/beyonce-knowles-highest-paid-performer-per-minute/874427/ http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity/Beyonce+Knowles-43076.html http://www.list.co.uk/article/38639-beyonce-knowles-highest-paid-performer-per-minute/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.200.163 (talk) 12:01, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Legacy

• Mary J. Blige say that beyoncé inspired her!

“I love Beyonce,” Blige adds. “She inspires me and it’s a blessing to have her on the song.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT_R_7btCrQ&feature=player_embedded (At time 5:25)

• You can see it here too:

"It doesn’t get any better than that. I mean love Beyoncé, she inspires me. It’s a blessing to have her on the record.” http://iluluonline.com/video-mary-j-blige-talks-beyonce-collaboration-inspiration/

• And here too:

http://twanatells.com/2011/11/08/mary-j-blige-talks-working-with-beyonce-more/

• White Rabbits Beyoncé Inspired Album

http://www.spin.com/articles/white-rabbits-start-road-testing-beyonce-inspired-album

 Done Oz ^talk 11:00, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

• Beyoncé is the first and only artist to sing three of the Oscar nominates for the Best Song during the telecast

THIS IS TRUE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOaBKcuI4Ag&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLA40EB75F7855713A http://beyoncegalaxy.wordpress.com/records/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.200.163 (talk) 02:12, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Highest-Earning Female Singers

4. Beyonce Knowles (35 million while resting at home)

 Done Oz ^talk 11:30, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

2010-11 and 2011-present

In 2010-11 and 2011-present you repeat the same news: "Knowles was placed fourth on Forbes magazine's 2011 list of the "Top-Earning Women In Music" for earning $35 million." You should remove on 2011-present, are already there in 2010-11!: ("In June 2011, Forbes placed Knowles eighth on its list of "Best-Paid Celebrities Under 30" for earning $35 million between the months of May 2010 and 2011. Forbes noted that was low placement for Knowles was due to the fact she spent most of the past year off the road and recording her then upcoming fourth studio album.")

They are both different lists. Beyonce was still on a break in early 2011. The section was getting too long so I separated it. Oz ^talk 00:57, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

New Image

I'm not going to attempt to change the image on here as I'll most likely do it wrong, but surely there's a more recent image of her that could be used? The current one is a month short of being 4 years old! Angelic-alyssa (talk) 15:05, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

If you can suggest one I will be very open to changing it. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:47, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I've changed the image to one from her I Am... Tour. But if anyone doesn't like it, then it can be changed to a different one. Ozurbanmusic (talk) 06:07, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Please do not get me wrong. I really do not like this image. We should find one that really lays emphasis on her face but recent. Maybe 2010 or 2011. Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I work with Beyonce's management team (Parkwood Entertainment) and they are not all that happy with this photo either. I have uploaded an approved photo I received from Parkwood to Wikimedia Commons and I will try to change the image to that photo. (Parkwood controls the copyright in the photograph.) gsshatan (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:50, 4 January 2012 (UTC).

I couldn't find that image you uploaded but I've changed the image to one that shows more of her face (which is important). I hope you like it. Oz ^talk 00:26, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Gsshatan, the image you uploaded to Commons was, or appeared to be, a copyright violation. If Beyonce's reps have given permission to use an image, it should probably go through OTRS. As for this new image, while it is a front view and shows her full face, the quality and lighting is significantly poorer. I personally prefer the previous image. —Andrew_stalk 00:41, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

I personally don't like the previous image because the microphone is blocking her mouth lol. But if quality is the problem then you can revert it back. Oz ^talk 00:51, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for posting the new image. This photo is preferable, according to her representatives. I do see the point about the lighting, though. I am going to need to put the photo that her reps supplied through OTRS. It's not a copyright violation; the image is owned by one of her companies (it acquired the copyright from the photographer,Tony Duran) and it was provided to Time Magazine on a one-time use basis and used on their cover earlier this year. That's all too complicated for the standard upload procedure as far as I can tell....Gsshatan (talk) 16:19, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

The image I received from her reps and posted to Commons (Beyonce Knowles with necklaces) has now been approved by OTRS. I have posted this image in the infobox. I think I did this correctly, but if there are any issues, please let me know. Thank you for your assistance with this. Gsshatan (talk) 00:24, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

present: 4 and motherhood

Beyonce Gives Birth To a Baby Girl

The 30-year-old pop singer gave birth to a baby girl late last night (Jan. 7) in NYC, according to The Houston Chronicle. According to reports, the baby girl's name is Ivy Blue Carter; E! Online News writes that the name is Blue Ivy Carter, although #ivyblue became a worldwide trending topic on Twitter immediately after the news broke.

http://www.billboard.com/#/news/beyonce-gives-birth-to-a-baby-girl-1005758352.story — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.190.124 (talk) 10:55, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

 Done Oz ^talk 11:15, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

The whole fake pregnancy thing

So I have to admit, the whole Beyonce "fake pregnancy" thing seems like something I would see in a tabloid, not an encyclopedia. Doesn't really meet the definition of what should be in an encyclopedia, considering I've now even spent considerable time trying to find reliable sources to get any info on it, and couldn't find anything. Maybe once someone I trust actually says something reasonable about it, I could get behind it, but as of right now I think it's probably best to leave it out. Over time I suspect this is one of those things that will just fade into obscurity. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 16:12, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

• Anyone who intends to comment here, please read this discussion. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 16:53, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

• Sorry Jivesh, but honestly, I cannot consider such rumors about pregnant bellies collapsing inward to be encyclopaedic. This was gossip, not even news-worthy stuff. So what if Knowles responded to it, it's a bit libel-ish and something one photographer/blogger decided to get famous by doing. And this guy who decided to start the craze is not notable in anyway, unlike an artist who would accuse another of plagiarism. This is a biography and every effort must be made to have the most important and neutral details only.

Many reliable sources have discussed it, but by the looks of it, they all say the exact same thing and it is simply because it is Beyoncé Knowles and not some other unnotable person. The media will release a press regarding anything that has to do with a huge pop star, no matter how dumb or ridiculous it is. So I'll have to support the revert and ask that it not be added. Thanks, —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 01:32, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

• I have to agree with Penguin too. Wikipedia, is an encyclopedia and as Shirik said, the pregnancy thing sounds "tabloid-y". It's just irrelevant to the article. Novice7 (talk) 04:21, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 11 January 2012

all i want to change is that she's married, who she's married to and that she had her child. that's it

Girrlplease (talk) 01:49, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 16:54, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Beyoncé's security guards

Someone deleted the following:

"In early 2012 when Beyoncé was in the hospital to give birth, her security guards repeatedly prevented Neil Coulon, 38, of Brooklyn, from visiting his wife and their two newly born premature daughters."

The editor who removed it commented:

"This is not relevant here."

But it is relevant here. The article is about Beyoncé, who she is, what she does, how she treats people, how she is thought of in the public eye, etc. It should be put back into the article.

What do other editors think about including or not including this information?

ThFSPB (talk) 02:34, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Okay, so has this been discussed and covered in the media heavily? If not, it's not notable. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 02:36, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

The New York Times published this article which is titled "After Beyoncé Gives Birth, Patients Protest Celebrity Security at Lenox Hill Hospital." The New York Post published this article titled "Dad stopped from seeing premature twins by Beyonce's hospital 'takeover'." Fox News published this article titled "Beyonce and Jay-Z's Hospital 'Takeover' Stopped New Dad From Seeing Premature Twins." The Daily Mail in the United Kingdom published this article titled "Beyoncé denies spending $1.3 MILLION for bulletproof maternity wing as father complains the singer's security team 'barred him from seeing premature twins in hospital's intensive care-unit'." The Times Union published this article titled "Dad of premature twins says Beyonce’s Blue Ivy took over hospital." WCHB in Detroit published this article titled "Beyonce and Jay-Z Hospital Security Keeps Man From Seeing Premature Twins." The New York Daily News published this article titled "Brooklyn dad says Beyonce's security stopped him from seeing preemie twins." ThFSPB (talk) 20:29, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Why don't you create a blog and publish the same thing in your style? Do you realize this is an encyclopedia? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 20:42, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 28 January 2012

Please add to the 'Legacy' section that 'In January 2012, Beyonce and Jay Z collectively ranked at No.13 in Billboard's Power 100 chart.'

Only1lottiemac (talk) 17:42, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Public Image . Legacy . 4 . Influences

Public Image

Sexiest Magazine Covers 7. Beyoncé - Giant, December 2008/January 2009 "Of all the ladies on this list, Beyonce is the most clothed. But it's not always what you take off that makes you sexy. With her ankle booties, fishnets and that undeniably gorgeous face, don't you want to climb into that cozy and comfy bubble chair with her? Sometimes it's what you don't show that make you mysterious and the Queen B has enraptured us with her appealing mystique." http://popcrush.com/sexiest-magazine-covers-ladies-edition/

_Beyoncé Most Fashionable Pregnant Star, Survey Says In a survey by the Daily Mail, 35% of moms-to-be said Beyoncé is an artist they respect and whose style they want to copy. "But we most definitely agree with 35 percent of voters, who said that they love Bey's laid-back 'tude and non-flashy style (well, save for the shoes -- the maternity heels have truly been a sight to see)." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/01/beyonce-most-fashionable-pregnant_n_1123824.html?1322770685&ref=style

"Her music is invigorating; it really brightens my mood and fires my imagination. Beyoncé is a beautiful, elegant woman." - Azzedina Alaia "Beyoncé wearing one of my dresses is harmony." - Roberto Cavalli "Givenchy is made for Beyoncé. I cannot wait for her to give birth. Because I want do have goose bumps when I see her back in Givenchy." - Riccardo Tisci (Givenchy) "Beyoncé is a force." - Tom Ford. From an African Queen to a sexy Goddess; from a trailer park sensation to a breathtaking impersonation of Dietrich; from a rodeo heroine to simply a King, Beyoncé has graced her unique approach to style in an eclectic range of editorials--a pure elegant beauty with an underlying sizzle that symbolizes sexy. In this tour de force, let's take a look at the most memorable style moments of Vogue's Best Dressed honoree.http://www.beyonceonline.com/us/news/2011-4-beyonc%C3%A9-highlights-year-sartorial-duty http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HWDhwdyDGB8

Beyoncé as a Political Figure? - http://news.rutgers.edu/focus/issue.2012-01-03.4307075525/article.2012-01-09.3710058680 “She certainly pushes boundaries,” Allred says. “While other artists are simply releasing music, she’s creating a grand narrative around her life, her career, and her persona.” — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.190.124 (talk) 14:02, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

"Buying Beyonce" Beyonce sells new dream, says Professor - In an article that was written for Celebrity Studies (a journal that focuses on analyzing celebrity, stardom and fame) titled “Buying Beyonce”, Ellis Cashmore says that Beyonce’s ability to sell her brand that extends beyond music and into movies, clothing, ringtones and perfume proves to people that racism is over. Although Cashmore acknowledges that Beyonce may be seen as a symbol of the change in people’s thinking’s regarding racism, he states that it is a bit misleading because the USA is still “mired in its past.” “In a sense she is unique,” Ellis says referring to Beyonce. “Her earnings and her influence make her the most globally conspicuously successful black woman this side of Oprah, and, remember, she isn’t 29 till September.” http://www.music-news.com/shownews.asp?nItemID=35760

Legacy

• Mary J. Blige say that beyoncé inspired her! “I love Beyonce,” Blige adds. “She inspires me and it’s a blessing to have her on the song.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT_R_7btCrQ&feature=player_embedded

• You can see it here too: "It doesn’t get any better than that. I mean love Beyoncé, she inspires me. It’s a blessing to have her on the record.” http://iluluonline.com/video-mary-j-blige-talks-beyonce-collaboration-inspiration/

• And here too: http://twanatells.com/2011/11/08/mary-j-blige-talks-working-with-beyonce-more/

Beyoncé is the first and only artist to sing three of the Oscar nominates for the Best Song during the telecast THIS IS TRUE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOaBKcuI4Ag&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLA40EB75F7855713A

Beyonce turns into Queen Elizabeth I - Interesting photograph to represent the Legacy section: Artwork showing Beyonce during the MTV Voices Dinner during the MTV Europe Music Awards 2011 at the Merchant Hotel on November 5, 2011 in Belfast, Northern Ireland. (Photo by Dave J Hogan/Getty Images) "SHE sure is a grand dame of the modern musical era." http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/beyonce-turns-into-queen-elizabeth-1/story-e6frewyr-1226187153292 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/07/beyonce-lady-gaga-adele-a_n_1080214.html

Clint Eastwood: "She has a superb voice. She could become a new Sarah Vaughan or the next Ella Fitzgerald. She has the same class." http://madamenoire.com/129101/beyonces-the-next-ella-fitzgerald-clint-eastwood-thinks-so/ http://thelavalizard.com/2012/01/signs-of-madness-clint-eastwood-compares-beyonce-to-ella-fitzgerald/ http://thatgrapejuice.net/2012/01/clint-eastwood-beyonce-ella-fitzgerald/

"4"

Beyoncé had the winning moment of 2011 Beyoncé's "Love on Top" performance and revelation at the VMAs was named the #1 winning moment of the year in VH1's countdown of the Top 40 winning moments/events of 2011! http://www.beyonceonline.com/us/news/beyonc%C3%A9-had-winning-moment-2011

Blue Ivy Carter

Joint statement from Beyoncé & JAY Z…: "Hello Hello Baby Blue! We are happy to announce the arrival of our beautiful daughter, Blue Ivy Carter, born on Saturday, January 7, 2012. Her birth was emotional and extremely peaceful, we are in heaven. She was delivered naturally at a healthy 7 lbs and it was the best experience of both of our lives. We are thankful to everyone for all your prayers, well wishes, love and support." - Beyoncé & JAY Z http://www.beyonceonline.com/pt/news/joint-statement-beyonc%C3%A9-jay-z%E2%80%A6

Blue Ivy Lullabies by The Jingle Punks Hipster Orchestra The Jingle Punks Hipster Orchestra creates lullabies for Blue Ivy Carter - The Jingle Punks Hipster Orchestra sends a musical congratulations to Jay Z and Beyonce on their ultimate mashup. http://hipsterorchestra.bandcamp.com/ http://stashonline.com/stash-v2/video/the-jingle-punks-hipster-orchestra-creates-lullabies-for-blue-ivy-carter/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.190.124 (talk) 13:24, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

INFLUENCES

- Josephine Baker

Beyoncé Knowles has portrayed Baker on various accounts throughout her career. During the 2006 Fashion Rocks show, Knowles performed "Dejá Vu" in a revised version of the Danse banane costume. In Knowles's video for "Naughty Girl", she is seen dancing in a huge champagne glass á La Baker. In I Am... Yours: An Intimate Performance at Wynn Las Vegas, Beyonce lists Baker as an influence of a section of her live show. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephine_Baker

When Beyonce performed at the 2008 Fashion Rocks 5th Anniversary, she paid homage to Ms. Baker by wearing her own skirt of bananas and appearing on stage with a bevy of background dancers in the same costume. As a backdrop for Beyonce’s performance several larger than life photographs of Josephine Baker were revealed on stage,exposing a whole new generation to the legendary icon. http://www.ammomag.com/1068553/Josephine-Baker-Fashion-Icon

Influenced her album B'Day: "I wanted to be more like Josephine Baker, because she didn't, she seemed like she just was possessed and it seemed like she just danced from her, her heart, and everything was so free,". Beyonce echoed her beliefs. "This record sounds like a woman possessed. It sounds like a woman that is kind of desperate, and I wanted it to just come from the soul. I just did whatever happened there," http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/SummerConcert/story?id=2404367&page=1

- Etta James

"This is a huge loss. Etta James was one of the greatest vocalists of our time. I am so fortunate to have met such a queen. Her musical contributions will last a lifetime. Playing Etta James taught me so much about myself, and singing her music inspired me to be a stronger artist. When she effortlessly opened her mouth, you could hear her pain and triumph. Her deeply emotional way of delivering a song told her story with no filter. She was fearless, and had guts. She will be missed." http://www.beyonceonline.com/us/news/beyoncé-pays-tribute-eternally-great-etta-james — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.190.124 (talk) 20:52, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

 Done Oz ^talk 23:51, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Can go in legacy

• [1]

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:51, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

• • Already added. Oz ^talk 12:50, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• [2]

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:56, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

• •  Done Oz ^talk 12:50, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Beyonce to Be Immortalized With Houston Monument

• [3]

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:23, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• •  Done Oz ^talk 12:50, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Beyonce Gets Politicized in Rutgers University Course

• [4]

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:23, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• •  Done Oz ^talk 12:50, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Fact

• In 2002, Beyoncé becomes the first black woman to win ASCAP's Pop Songwriter of the Year Award.

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:49, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

• • Already mentioned in the article that it was 2001. Oz ^talk 22:21, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Beyonce offered HALF a Billion Dollar.

---> http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/has-simon-cowell-offered-beyonce-500-million-to-join-x-factor/story-e6frfn09-1226261714301

Beyonce to judge for X-FACTOR and was offered $US500 million ($467 million). jmarkfrancia (talk) 10:56, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

It's just a rumour started by Media fakeTakeout. Not confirmed yet. Oz ^talk 11:37, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Sleigh Bells

[5] jmarkfrancia (talk) 16:43, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Beyonce to shoot music video in Space.

http://www.nme.com/news/beyonce/61400 jmarkfrancia (talk) 16:45, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Another rumour not confirmed. Oz ^talk 22:25, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Haha! —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 22:29, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

VH1′s 100 Greatest Women In Music 2012 - LEGACY

VH1′s 100 Greatest Women In Music 2012 Beyoncé at number 3. http://www.vh1.com/music/tuner/2012-02-13/vh1s-100-greatest-women-in-music-complete-list/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.203.42 (talk) 01:46, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Beyoncé Scores First Adult R&B No. 1 at Billboard.

http://www.billboard.com/column/the-juice/chart-juice-beyonce-banks-first-adult-r-1006269962.story#/column/the-juice/chart-juice-beyonce-banks-first-adult-r-1006269962.story jmarkfrancia (talk) 12:30, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protection question

Hi

im a user and i want to ask you guys somthing

im a user and of course i can edit but im just wonder

why another users can edit in page semi portcted and i cant ???????????

please help thanksssssssssssssssssssssss..................................... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sola2012 (talk • contribs) 20:51, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, if you have an account, you should be able to edit. Strange. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

An account must be four days old and have at least 10 edits before semi-protected articles can be edited. See WP:AUTOCONFIRM. - Station1 (talk) 06:12, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved Mike Cline (talk) 21:34, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

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Beyoncé Knowles → Beyoncé – Although an identical request closed as No consensus last time 'round, now, for goodness sake, the unhyphenated maiden name isn't the style of name by which the subject wishes to be known, any more/tain't diva's full legal name, either: per news reports, court filings, personal Facebook pg.--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 17:51, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

This discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Has already been discussed before. Like 5 months ago. This is pointless. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:52, 23 February 2012 (UTC) WP goes by the source. Sure, it's the encyclopedia anybody can edit so enough ignorant folks can sometimes get their way, even without being armed with any sources (ie, if it can sourced that Beyonce does not wish to be known by her legal name, let's talk!; meanwhile court filings using this name are referenced in this edit here: diff--and her peronal Facebook page utilizing her full legal name is likewise easy too access).--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 17:59, 23 February 2012 (UTC) (e/c) Not really Jivesh, Consensus can change. You need to be more courteous, just express your opinion on the move request, if you don't agree, say that. Don't argue that this request is "pointless", no need. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:00, 23 February 2012 (UTC) Please don't comment on my courtesy. I know practically everything about Beyonce. She has played in so many movies and yet none of them refer to her by her married name. They say Beyonce Knowles. Even in award shows. Her album liner notes. Her single covers. Her interviews. Everything. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:05, 23 February 2012 (UTC) "I know practically everything about Beyonce" – really? I doubt it. But in any case, you should learn to be tolerate of other editors' opinions. This is a perfectly good faith move request. It may fail. But you shouldn't come out claiming it to be "pointless", just make your opinion known in a neutral tone and move on. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:14, 23 February 2012 (UTC) I wrote practically. I did not say EVERYTHING. Okay? I tolerate only those who tolerate me. Full stop. We can migrate to my talk-page if you want to continue. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:12, 23 February 2012 (UTC) I don't recall saying "EVERYTHING". I recall re-writing exactly what you'd written. I have no desire to take this to your talk page, I just want you to be civil to the nominator. And, for what it's worth, it's not about knowing "practically everything about Beyonce", it's about understanding how Wikipedia works. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:14, 23 February 2012 (UTC) What was your doubt based on then? Your doubt is as insignificant to me as is my knowledge about tombs and football teams. Let's not stress this.Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:21, 23 February 2012 (UTC) Sorry, whatever you "claim" to know about Beyonce is entirely irrelevant to this discussion. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:23, 23 February 2012 (UTC) Sorry but same goes out for your doubt about me. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:26, 23 February 2012 (UTC) Pardon? I doubt your claim. Your claim has absolutely no relevance to this discussion. What do you think the discussion has gained by your claim? And your bad-faith treatment of a perfectly reasonable move request? The Rambling Man (talk) 18:28, 23 February 2012 (UTC) Oh please. I don't have time for this. I am already on the verge of leaving Wikipedia for good because of people like you. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:31, 23 February 2012 (UTC) Ok, well let's cap the discussion, remember to assume good faith and let the move debate continue. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:33, 23 February 2012 (UTC) The only advice I have for you is do not doubt people just because you do not know them. Goodbye. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:35, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose. I get 3,620 post-2005 English-language Google Book hits for Beyoncé Knowles, 13,000 for Beyoncé -Knowles. The best-selling bio is [http://www.amazon.com/Beyonc%C3%A9-Crazy-Love-Biography-ebook/dp/B0064P5AD2/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1330069868&sr=1-3 Beyoncé Crazy in Love: The Beyoncé Knowles Biography]. There are four other bios with "Knowles" in the title.[6][7][http://www.amazon.com/Beyonc%C3%A9-Knowles-Biography-Biographies-ebook/dp/B002F9MZH0/ref=pd_sim_sbs_b_3?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TWVU5XWC2][8] IMO, that's "fairly often used", per WP:NCP. I don't see any reason to treat an entertainer referred to by given name differently than a politician referred to by family name. Kauffner (talk) 08:06, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Cmt - Why did you leave out google hits for the name that was suggested the article be moved to: Beyonce'? Thus your research is not applicable to the current discussion.--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 20:03, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose She is credited as Beyoncé Knowles on all her album booklets, movies credits, interviews, etc. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:32, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Cmt - That's a reasonable argument, if true. Can you provide links?--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 20:03, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Cmt - OK I just Googled the above unsourced assertion for a not much more than a millisecond only to discover it to be patently false: LINK...jeez! what's with this page!? lol--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 20:07, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm the idiot - the link I provided was to Beyonce' "the character"! <cringes in embarrassemnt> :'~( --Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 20:59, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

• Speedy oppose Beyoncé is her personal name of the singer/actress. "Beyoncé" is the redirect of the article. ApprenticeFan ^work 14:04, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose Per the previous consensus to not move. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 18:12, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose; nothing has changed since last time. If Shirley Temple is not at Shirley Temple Black, then I certainly don't see a reason to use Knowles' hyphenated married name, which I couldn't even tell you without reading the article. Powers ^T 19:32, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Um, perhaps you need to re-read the proposal. It's not to move it to her married name, it's just to move it to Beyonce. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:43, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
    • That part was covered by my first sentence. Powers ^T 03:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
      • Well this isn't "last time" and it would be helpful if you expressed your opinion "this time" so all readers of this discussion don't have to go and seek "last time". Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:08, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
• Cmt - What has changed since the last move discussion is now article is sourced that living subject's legal name is no longer the unhyphenated Knowles; thus a request is to move her blp to her stage name per wp:TITLE (not to her hyphenated married name: which sadly is a red herring).--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 20:15, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
• Question Can anyone provide a source that indicates that she changed her name legally upon getting married? It isn't automatic.—Kww(talk) 20:27, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Her personal twitter acct is at CarterKnowles LINK, her Facebook page is at Beyonce' Giselle Knowles Carter LINK her private myspace page is at BeyonceKnowles Carter LINK, and here is a news report LINK and here is reference to a legal filing using her present full legal name LINK.--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 21:13, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

The Courthouse News link refers to her as "Knowles-Carter", "Knowles", and "Carter", so I'm not going to give it any credence. http://twitter.com/#!/CarterKnowles labels her as "Beyonce Knowles" and points to http://www.facebook.com/beyonce as the Facebook page, which uses only "Beyonce". http://twitter.com/#!/CarterKnowles has only 29 followers, while http://twitter.com/#!/Beyonce has 3,298,490: I know which one I will get on, and the real page doesn't use "Carter". http://www.facebook.com/pages/Beyonc%C3%A9-Giselle-Knowles-Carter/174232052596991 looks like a fanpage. I don't see any use of "Carter" by a credible source.—Kww(talk) 23:10, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Well - guess folks see what they want. IAC to those without a predetermined agenda: The news article at Courthouse merely references the name on the legal filing (after all lawyers get paid big bucks to first verify and then utilize the correct legal name of those they sue), the facebook page is the subject's page for her fans where she posts baby pix and the like and her twitter acct only has a handful of followers because the tweets are readable only by those she's allowed access. And you neglected to mention the Boston Globe item about her adoption of the hyphenated surname.--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 00:17, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't know why you would think I have a "predetermined agenda". I had missed the Boston.com link when I was checking your sources, but it only indicates a plan. Any source for the paperwork having been approved? We had a similar problem with the "Destiny Hope Cyrus" to "Miley Cyrus" name change: piles of sources that presumed it had happened months before it actually happened.—Kww(talk) 00:50, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Geez, Kww, you asked for a single source and I gave count-em five and I could have included many more, but apparently my doing so would be hopeless. If Miss Knowles herself uses the hypenated form on her personal social media accounts (per the guidelines stating that self-published primary sources are considered reliable about the author of the same, herself) and news reports reference her as utilizing that form, What is the problem with the sourcing of the same? Then as for your quibble goes regarding the Courthouse News Svc piece <This is complicated, um ostensibly, so I'll speak slowly....I know, I'm being a d*ck...lol>:

1. Yep, Courthouse News refers to Miss Knowles as Knowles. Why? Because that is the last name by which the artist is reknowns and Courthouse News is a a group of professional journalists.
2. Then, the report references the legal filing, which references Miss Knowles with her hyphenated, legal married last name of Knowles-Carter. Why? Because Courthouse News is a professional legal publication and that information is pertinent to their news report.
3. Finally, Courthouse News quotes the legal brief as referencing Miss Knowles as (Mrs.) Carter. Why? (See the professional way of dealing with quotes that even WP abides by MOS:QUOTE#Quotations here.) Yes, because that is the way the brief-being-quoted actually reads! (I.e., in formal legalese, someone with a hyphenated married name can be referenced by one or the other depending on whether one wants to reference the individual's unmarried surname or their married surname. [Vaguely related to such choices, compare, e.g., this profile of Victorian English novelist Edward Bulwer-Lytton the novelist is usually referenced simply as Bulwer owing to the fact that that is the surname of the family he was born into. Yet, the biographical blurb at the website for the tongue-in-cheek Annual Bulwer-Lytton Contest references the author as Lytton as short for his titled name pertaining to his "lordship" status (a la Lord Byron as Byron...).])

   However, the whole issue is at best tangential because the move request would be to her stage name of simply Beyonce', in any case.--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 20:21, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

It isn't tangential because your justification is basically that "Beyoncé Knowles" is now incorrect, but you haven't demonstrated that she has stopped using it. You haven't demonstrated that the social media sites you are are referencing are actually her, you've provided a citation to a plan to change her name, and you've provided one reference that may or may not support your case. Unconvincing at best.—Kww(talk) 00:44, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Beyonce as cast for movie, One Hit Wonders.

Ryan Murphy Plans ‘One Hit Wonders’ With Gwyneth Paltrow, Reese Witherspoon, Cameron Diaz, Beyonce And Andy Samberg. --> http://www.deadline.com/2012/02/ryan-murphy-plans-one-hit-wonders-with-gwyneth-paltrow-reese-witherspoon-cameron-diaz-beyonce-and-andy-samberg/ jmarkfrancia (talk) 05:57, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Another news --> Beyonce has signed on to star in a movie musical directed by Glee creator, Ryan Murphy, from BBC News. [9] jmarkfrancia (talk) 14:18, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Gaga, Beyoncé, etc. Latin MSN's 2012 Most Powerful Women

• [http://noticias.latam.msn.com/ve/fotos.aspx?cp-documentid=32726535 Half of the most powerful pair of Pop Beyoncé Giselle Knowles-Carter and her husband Jay-Z had their first child recently, a girl named Blue Ivy.

At the tender age of 30, Beyonce is undeniably on the crest of the wave.]

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:39, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Another College Course for Beyoncé Knowles

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Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:45, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Dangerously in Love sales

Don't forget to update Dangerously in Love sales. — 109.10.27.101 (talk) 16:35, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Influences

Inspiration: Aretha Franklin “You are an inspiration.” Beyoncé adds, “Thank you for making the rules, breaking the rules and making it possible for me to do what I do.”

http://www.essence.com/2012/03/25/exclusive-beyonce-wishes-aretha-franklin-a-happy-birthday/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.164.50 (talk) 19:59, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Don't forget to update this info! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.164.50 (talk) 10:18, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

NEW Website

Hello. Now you have to change the information about her website. The new link is: www.beyonce.com - Not www.beyonceonline.com. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.164.50 (talk) 23:43, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Well actually, http://www.beyonce.com is maintained by Parkwood Entertainment, Beyonce's personal company while http://www.beyonceonline.com is maintained by Sony Music, her record label. It is the "same difference" between http://www.britneyspears.com and http://www.britney.com. We need to treat both like official sites. In order to do so, I think that we should remove the official site link in her infobox and include both links in the external links section. | ^help_dןǝɥ | 00:51, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Britney's bio adds both links to the infobox. It should be that way. Oz ^talk 01:52, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Both links in the infobox please - treat both like official sites. Don't forget to update this! Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.164.50 (talk) 10:10, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Female rapper Brianna Perry influenced by Beyonce?

• [11] Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:17, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Public Image

BEYONCÉ 2012 WORLD'S MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMAN BY PEOPLE MAGAZINE

http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20360857_20589758,00.html http://www.people.com/people/package/0,,20360857,00.html http://www.people.com/people/package/video/0,,20360857_20590002,00.html

"I feel more beautiful than I've ever felt because I've given birth," she says. "I have never felt so connected, never felt like I had such a sense of purpose on this earth." "The best thing about having a daughter is having a true legacy," she adds. "The word 'love' means something completely different now." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.164.50 (talk) 13:52, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

 Done Oz ^talk 20:24, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

This info can be also present at Beyoncé Giselle Knowles(main topic), after this phrase "and second on its list of the 100 Most Powerful and Influential celebrities in the world."? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.164.50 (talk) 21:06, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I've put the info in the fourth paragraph. Oz ^talk 22:31, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I think it will be better like this in the third paragraph: (are better and in accordance with the dates and subjects)

Apart from her work in music, Knowles has also ventured into acting and designing clothes and perfumes. She made her acting debut in the musical film Carmen: A Hip Hopera (2001), prior to appearing in major films, including Austin Powers in Goldmember (2002), Dreamgirls (2006), which earned her two Golden Globe nominations, Cadillac Records (2008) and Obsessed (2009). In 2005, Knowles and her mother introduced their family's fashion line, House of Deréon, and in 2010, she released her first perfume, Heat. She has endorsed brands including, L'Oréal, Pepsi, Tommy Hilfiger, Nintendo and Vizio. In April 2008, Knowles married American rapper Jay-Z. In 2010, Knowles was ranked first on Forbes list of the "100 Most Powerful and Influential Musicians in the World",[4] and second on its list of the "100 Most Powerful and Influential Celebrities in the World".[5] In April 2012, she was named "World's Most Beautiful Woman" by People magazine.

The marriaged there (on fourth paragraph) has no sense for me, since it was in 2008.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.164.50 (talk) 22:46, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I have moved the people magazine sentence into the third paragraph. And I've mentioned Blue Ivy in the marriage sentence so it doesn't look awkward. Looking at the other good articles, info about personal lives are mentioned last. Oz ^talk 01:22, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Why do you think useless nonsense like this belongs in the lead? In what way is a magazine promotional item of one of these imaginary "Top 100" things important enough to be one of the key things that someone that only reads four paragraphs about Beyonce should know? Especially if you don't even think it's important enough to include in the article itself? The lead is supposed to be a summary of the article, including only things that are in the article, and presenting a concise summary of the topic. This kind of thing doesn't qualify under any criteria.—Kww(talk) 02:09, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

http://www.billboard.com/#/news/beyonce-named-people-s-most-beautiful-woman-1006882952.story http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/beyonce-tops-people-2012-beautiful-people-list-gallery-1.1067226 It's good Oz!! Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.164.50 (talk) 10:57, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Motherhood makes a woman more beautiful?

Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: Ater People magazin named Beyonce for the most beautiful woman in the world in 2012. year, she said: "After the birth daughther Ivy Blue I feel much more beautiful than ever because now I have a real meaning in life.". Is it a confirmation of the idea that motherhood makes a woman more beautiful?93.137.44.29 (talk) 08:58, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 30 April 2012

Please may i edit on this page...

JakeBeyoncéjake (talk) 16:32, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

If you wait a few days, you'll be able to. Otherwise, if you have a specific change you'd like to see made immediately, please be specific. Powers ^T 19:06, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Beyoncé set to win a writing award from the New York Association of Black Journalists

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Jivesh1205 (Talk) 03:54, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done Oz ^talk 21:24, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Present + Public Image - Beyonce wins journo award

AWARD WINNING JOURNALIST - New York Association of Black Journalists

Beyonce set to win writing award from the New York Association of Black Journalists Sexy songstress singled out for Essence magazine story 'Eat, Play, Love' Beyonce Knowles can add yet another title to her already dazzling resume - award-winning journalist. The mogul mama, recently named People magazine's Most Beautiful woman of 2012, is set to win a writing award from the New York Association of Black Journalists on May 15. The sexy songstress will be singled out for her July 2011 Essence magazine cover story "Eat, Play, Love," which chronicled her nine-month hiatus from the biz in 2010.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/beyonce-set-win-writing-award-york-association-black-journalists-article-1.1071559#ixzz1tnPHstNc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.164.50 (talk) 09:20, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done Oz ^talk 21:24, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

2010–present: New management, 4 and motherhood - REVEL

Due to overwhelming demand, we are pleased to announce the additon of a fourth REVEL show! May 25,26,27 AND Memorial Day, Monday, May 28th! http://www.beyonce.com/news/fourth-show-added-at-revel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.164.50 (talk) 16:49, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done Oz ^talk 21:24, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Beyoncé Knowles

Music - Billboard 2012 Nomination - Billboard Top R&B Album 2012 - Beyoncé "4" http://www.billboard.com/bbma/finalist?page=4 - Billboard Top R&B Artist 2012 - Beyoncé http://www.billboard.com/bbma/finalist?page=3

Retail - Pulse - The Fifi Awards 2012 Beyoncé Pulse is a Top 5 finalist in two major Women's Prestige categories for , the premier awards of the fragrance industry. Pulse is nominated as Fragrance of the Year and Best Packaging of the Year. Winners will be announced on May 21. http://www.beyonce.com/news/beyonce-pulse-is-a-top-5-fifi-finalist http://fifiawards.wordpress.com/

I already put this info at this list, but anyone update this!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.164.50 (talk) 22:47, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done Oz ^talk 21:24, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Fifi awards information is there, but about billboard nominations contiuous not there.. - At her list of awards and nominations received by Beyoncé Knowles! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.164.50 (talk) 11:17, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Then you should have posted this information at Talk:List of awards and nominations received by Beyoncé Knowles. I thought you meant add the award nominations in this article. Oz ^talk 14:11, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

N. 14 Forbes World's 20 Most Powerful Moms

N.14 (all), N.1 (Entertainer)

• http://www.forbes.com/pictures/lmj45jffe/no-14-beyonce-knowles/#gallerycontent

Silencio faz bem (talk) 21:04, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done Oz ^talk 05:22, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Victoria's Secrets 'what is sexy' list

Beyoncé - Sexiest mom

• http://www.lfpress.com/life/2012/05/09/19747311.html

Silencio faz bem (talk) 09:11, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Beyonce to star on Fox Movie, Epic

Beyonce, Colin Farrell, Josh Hutcherson, Amanda Seyfried, Steven Tyler Lead Voice Cast For Fox Animated Film ‘Epic’ http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/beyonce-colin-farrell-josh-hutcherson-amanda-seyfried-steven-tyler-lead-voice-cast-for-fox-animated-film-epic/ jmarkfrancia (talk) 01:08, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

 Done teman13 (talk) 01:29, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

South African Sports Awards.

Beyonce as a headline act for South African Sports Awards on November 24 and 25, 2012. http://www.channel24.co.za/Music/News/Mbaks-begs-for-Beyonce-20120617 jmarkfrancia (talk) 15:22, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

No the source says he wants Beyonce to perform but nothing has been confirmed. Oz ^talk 23:00, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

World Tour

Is there any update about Beyonce's planned World Tour that was announced last 2011? jmarkfrancia (talk) 12:15, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

That was rumours, media speculation. Not encyclopaedic. Oz ^talk 12:20, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Cheryl Cole on B

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9:33 "She to me is our modern day version of Michael Jackson, what he stood for. She is the epitome of the word 'superstar'."

03:06, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

 Done teman13 ^{TALKCONTRIBUTIONS} 03:33, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

It is  Not done. I can't see the info in the article. My love is love (talk) 10:04, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

New Destiny's Child Album?

According to this article Destiny's child is supposed to put out two new catalog albums with new material and is going to go on tour. Is this worthy of putting into the article? Tay^(uhoh) 03:57, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Influences

Beyoncé about Michael Jackson:

"When I was just starting out, my first producer used to make me listen to Michael Jackson’s live performance of “Who’s Loving You.” He would have me watch that for hours back to back to back. What he wanted me to learn was his soul. You could hear his soul. And he was this little kid who hadn’t experienced love but he was a vessel. For whatever reason he could evoke more emotion than an adult. It was so raw and so pure. It was these little things that he did that were just swag. It’s something that’s God given. Michael taught me that sometimes you have to forget technique, forget what you have on. If you feel silly, you have to go from the gut just let it go. Michael Jackson changed me, and helped me to become the artist I am - thank you Michael."

http://www.beyonce.com/news/michael-jackson

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.164.200 (talk) 13:03, 26 June 2012‎ (UTC)

Legacy

Can this be included in her Legacy? A Filipino singer, Sarah Geronimo was often referred as "The Filipino Beyonce" and was inspired by Knowles on her singing-while-dancing skill on-stage. Source: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/entertainment/06/19/12/sarah-g-filipino-beyonce

If its a reliable source then yes. Oz ^talk 21:10, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I dont know how to put this on the legacy or where to place it so i just want somebody to do it. This is what Sarah Geronimo says about Beyonce, "Lahat naman tayo idol natin si Beyonce. Ma-achieve lang natin ang kahit 10 percent ng galing niya, okay na ako (All of us admire Beyonce. Achieving even just 10% of her skill, i am already contented on it). She has been tagged as the Filipino counterpart of Beyonce due to her sing and dance production numbers, according to this article. --> http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/entertainment/06/19/12/sarah-g-filipino-beyonce ABS-CBN is one of two famous Philippines' broadcasting company.

2012: Motherhood and upcoming projects - NEW ALBUM

Beyonce starts work on new album

BEYONCE has been holed up in a studio in New York working on her next album with Kanye West and hubby Jay-Z’s producer Hit-Boy. And the singer is taking no chances with her new material being leaked. A source said: “She’s spent thousands hiring out the whole studios. She’s got security on the doors to ensure no one hears a whisper. “She’s being strict with proceedings too, putting in 14-hour days declaring nobody leaves until it’s perfect.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/4470885/Beyonce-starts-work-on-new-album.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.93.166.177 (talk) 23:43, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done Oz ^talk 00:03, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

The World's Highest-Paid Celebrity Couple

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Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:37, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done Oz ^talk 00:03, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Philanthropy

Beyoncé joins global aid organizations to highlight World Humanitarian Day, 19 August 2012

http://reliefweb.int/report/world/beyonc%C3%A9-joins-global-aid-organizations-highlight-world-humanitarian-day-19-august-2012 http://www.beyonce.com/news/a-message-from-beyonce http://www.whdiwashere.org/ http://www.unocha.org/

The World Humanitarian Day music video for Beyoncé’s song “I Was Here” will be filmed in the UN General Assembly Hall in New York in front of a live audience. It will be released globally on 19 August. Beyoncé and songwriter Diane Warren are donating the video to the campaign. The campaign website, which is launched today, provides everyone with an opportunity to unite and share his or her individual acts of good. On 19 August, the campaign aims to reach 1 billion people in a day with a single message.

“We all see the headlines and we think what can I really do to help?”, said Beyoncé. “World Humanitarian Day is an opportunity for all of us to work together to make a difference. This is our time to leave our mark on the world and show that we were here and we care.”

On the eve of her live performance for her video in honor of World Humanitarian Day, Beyoncé meets Secretary General Ban Ki moon at the UN General Assembly Hall. http://www.beyonce.com/news/we-are-here http://www.beyonce.com/news/i-was-here http://act.mtv.com/posts/beyonce-i-was-here-behind-the-scenes-world-humanitarian-day-united-nations/?tw_p=twt — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.93.166.177 (talk) 14:12, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done Oz ^talk 00:03, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

UPDATE THIS! Beyoncé reached 1,132,204,261 people to do something good for someone else!! https://www.thunderclap.it/whd-iwashere — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.93.166.177 (talk) 14:34, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

PLEASE YOU NEED TO PUT THIS IN PRESENT WORDS, AND NOT IN THE PAST! She already do this, and surpassed over billion messages! "On July 27, 2012 it was revealed that Knowles would be releasing a music video for "I Was Here" as part of a global launch of World Humanitarian Day, held by the Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA).[308] The video, which was directed by Kenzo Digital and Sophie Muller was filmed in front of a live audience at the United Nations General Assembly in New York on August 10.[309][310] It premiered on August 18.[310] The campaign aims to reach 1 billion people with a single message when it launches." http://www.beyonce.com/news/drop-your-pin The premierer on August 18, for philanthropy it doesn't seem important here...

 Done Oz ^talk 22:36, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Current photo

Shouldn't the main photo be a candid photo rather than the current one from a Time magazine photoshoot? Just curious! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.100.67 (talk) 08:19, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, it should be. The infobox photo is for identification purposes so having a unusual hairdo and pose is not appropriate for that photo. --MarsRover (talk) 17:45, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Music's Top 10 Couples

• 2) JAY-Z AND BEYONCE SOURCE. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:28, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Lol. Mariah has about as much as both of them combined :)--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 10:13, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Philanthropy

Beyoncé facebook: "A new version of my song "I Miss You" is featured on the new album from Artists Project Earth, called ‘Rhythms Del Mundo Africa’. Sales of the album support some really great projects all over the world, tackling climate change and natural disaster relief. Click here to find out more. www.rhythmsdelmundo.org "

http://www.rhythmsdelmundo.org/

In addition to this, all proceeds generated will be donated to Artists Project Earth (APE) to help them continue the incredible work they do, create a better world by bringing the power of music and the arts to 21st century challenges. APE support effective projects and awareness-raising initiatives to combat climate change, and raise funds for natural disaster relief. - http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/rdm

Artists Project Earth has funded over 300 projects and awareness-raising initiatives around the world that combat climate change and develop local resilience and solutions to climate injustice – and gives emergency funding for natural disaster relief. - http://www.apeuk.org/ape

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.93.166.177 (talk) 22:32, 24 August 2012‎ (UTC)

For reference only, Google search results

• "Beyoncé Knowles" -Beyonce About 3,630,000 results
• "Beyonce Knowles" -Beyoncé About 20,000,000 results

The results above show quite clearly that "Beyonce Knowles" is the general use in English sources. According to WP:DIACRITICS we should follow the majority of sources, not the most accurate, therefore according to WP:AT this article should be moved to "Beyonce Knowles" and her accent removed from the title. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:51, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

...However there is no intention/need for discussion on this. This is just a marker giving equivalent search results to those applied to various non-British/American names with accents. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:13, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Vanity Fair's "THE POWERS THAT BE"

• Jay-Z and Beyoncé - 8 http://www.vanityfair.com/business/new-establishment/2012/the-powers-that-be/08-jay-z-and-beyonce

Silencio faz bem (talk) 18:37, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Azealia Banks too

• And I love Beyonce – she's the queen of everything. She's the most remarkable performer and musician. And this is just my humble opinion, but I just think she's better than everyone else making music right now. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 16:30, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Image

can we change the main image to file: Beyonce_Knowles_2012_BET_awards.jpg ? - I have changed it a few times but after a few hours it gets put back to the current image. I think the image i'm suggesting should be used as it is much more recent and as a biography of a living person I think the image used should at least be of the person in this current year. Also, I don't think the current image is appropriate due to it being from a magazine shoot and the hair blowing in her face makes it harder to identify --Lolcakes25 (talk) 01:30, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

I kept changing it back to the previous image because I thought the image you uploaded was a copyright violation. But on your talk page you said "it's from Beyoncé's official website and has a free license". If that's true, then I'll leave the current image. Oz ^talk 07:55, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

• Agree - I reverted to your version. Having a magazine/photo-shoot/screenshot/airbrushed photo is absurd.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 01:54, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

• It's not absurd if it is a free licensed image. — Tomica (talk) 13:19, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Its not showing a fair and truthful representation of what the artist looks like...--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 23:17, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

• Agree - As someone said in another talk page: "it's not that you look at the picture and say 'whoa that's Beyoncé' " —Gheiratina ^{(Touch~^)} 00:46, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Beyoncé - Super Bowl 2013!!!

http://www.beyonce.com/news/countdown-to-touchdown http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/10/16/beyonce-nfl-super-bowl-halftime-show/ http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2012/10/beyonce-super-bowl-halftime-performer http://www.forbes.com/sites/lancemadden/2012/10/16/beyonce-to-headline-2013-super-bowl-halftime-show/

Beyonce will perform! Fev. 3, 2013! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.93.166.177 (talk) 20:51, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done — Oz (talk) 21:12, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Surrogate motherhood rumors

There is some evidence out there that Beyonce's pregnancy was via a surrogate mother. Whether or not this is actually true we should at least mention the rumors then Beyonce's denials so that this article doesn't read like a press release.--71.190.16.143 (talk) 21:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

-Elizabeth Sneed, "Proof that Beyonce Used a Surrogate Mother", Hollywood Reporter, October 2011. -Anya Leon, Mom & Babies: Surrocacy Rumors Were 'Just Crazy', People, 4/29/12. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.16.143 (talk) 22:03, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

No. This has been discussed before (see Talk:Beyoncé Knowles/Archive 8#The whole fake pregnancy thing). — Oz (talk) 21:59, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

"No", what? That discussion lasted exactly a day. Could we reopen it?--71.190.16.143 (talk) 22:10, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

"No" it won't be added. Rumors/gossip are not encyclopedic and should NOT be included in biography articles. — Oz (talk) 22:20, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

But the careers of such celebrities ARE based on rumor and gossip. Some of the content in here, although not gossip and no doubt impressive, I wouldn't say is encyclopedic.

-For example: "In addition, data from Google Insights showed that the most searched for term from August 29, 2011 to September 4, 2011 was 'Beyonce pregnant' which reached 'breakout' levels – a term used by Google to describe a search with an increase of over 5,000 percent." even though we already have:

-"The Huffington Post later confirmed that Knowles was 5 months pregnant and her pregnancy announcement had broken the 'most tweets per second recorded for a single event' Twitter record, receiving 8,868 tweets per second."

I mean, are we a celebrity press service or what?--71.190.16.143 (talk) 22:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

If you have GOOD, CONVINCING evidence to re-open the discussion, I see no reason why not. As stated in Wikipedia's rules here.--Aichikawa (talk) 17:33, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

I do. Note from her article she gave birth early January 2012. Calculate then, that Blue Ivy was conceived early April 2011.

1. This is her, late June 2011, when she was nearly 3 months pregnant, on the French X-Factor. This page confirms the date of that performance as 6/28/11. In Europe they write it "28/06/11." Notice the table dance in heels, and jumping off the table. Why would a celebrity with a high-risk pregnancy really be performing so strenuously?

2. This is her on Good Morning America, a mere four days later. And another clip from the same show. Watch that at 1:30. Here is a source about her height. So those heels are 4 to 5 inches.

3. Here she is again, in Ireland, about a week later. Look at the video at 0:29, 1:12, and 2:14. At 1:12 you will see that her thighs are skinnier than the backup singer's on the left. Here is a link to the Wikipedia page that gives evidence of the dates for Oxegen that year.

4. This story gives the date of the video shoot for the song "Party," August 2, 2011, so she was almost 4 months pregnant. Look at her then.

5. This is perhaps the most laughable. After she shows that she is allegedly pregnant at the Video Music Awards, which we say "gets 8,868 tweets per second", she is photographed at a Tory Burch opening like this. Both BET and this source show the date as Sept. 13 or 14, or when she is 5-and-a-half months pregnant. This is what pregnancy at the end of second trimester, which means at the end of 6 months, is supposed to look like.--24.103.25.189 (talk) 19:40, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Regarding #5, it doesn't necessarily mean that the belly of 5-and-a-half months pregnant look the same in every woman. It is an individualized process, every pregnancy is different, even in the same woman. My sister who was pregnant at 7 months, no one ever noticed her pregnancy including me. Let others response to your other evidences. :) jmarkfrancia (talk) 10:07, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Judging by the photo of you, this makes perfect sense as your sister is likely also be skinny. But Beyonce is not. Which adds to her charm but would less likely produce a figure like your sister's. Look, I'm a fan as anyone else. Please wait while I add more examples.--24.103.25.189 (talk) 15:21, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

To add

• [15] Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:43, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

 Done — Oz (talk) 01:08, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

2012: Motherhood and upcoming projects + Philanthropy

NOVEMBER 1 2012 - BEYONCE PERFORMANCE LIVE AT KEEP A CHILD ALIVE'S BLACKBALL - Celebrating the power of women and the promise of an AIDS-free Africa. http://keepachildalive.org/the-black-ball/2012-ny/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.93.166.177 (talk) 20:02, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done — Oz (talk) 01:10, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

2012: Motherhood and upcoming projects

(...)In August 2012, it was announced that she will produce, direct, and star in a biographical documentary about her life and career.

- BEYONCÉ IN AN INTIMATE, REVEALING DOCUMENTARY FILM DEBUTING FEB. 16, 2013, EXCLUSIVELY ON HBO: http://www.beyonce.com/news/beyonce-plus-hbo-equals-a-new-documentary-film

- BEYONCÉ Facebook:

BEYONCÉ IN AN INTIMATE, REVEALING DOCUMENTARY FILM DEBUTING FEB. 16, 2013, EXCLUSIVELY ON HBO Multiple Grammy®-winner, entrepreneur and actress Beyoncé will be the focus of an intimate feature-length HBO documentary film debuting Feb. 16, 2013, it was announced today by Michael Lombardo, president, HBO Programming. Directed by the superstar, the film is a fusion of video that provides raw, unprecedented access to the private entertainment icon and high-voltage performances. “Everybody knows Beyoncé’s music, but few know Beyoncé the person,” said Lombardo. “Along with electrifying footage of Beyoncé onstage, this unique special looks beyond the glamour to reveal a vibrant, vulnerable, unforgettable woman.” “HBO has a history of pushing every boundary with class and authenticity,” said Beyoncé. “Some of my favorite shows are on HBO, so I am excited that my film will be part of its bold programming. This film was so personal to me, it had to have the right home." The film is a multi-faceted portrait of the 16-time Grammy Award-winning singer, businesswoman, songwriter, actress, entrepreneur, wife and mother, showing off the extraordinary gifts that have made her a global phenomenon, and stripping away the veneer of stardom. It includes extensive first-person footage, some of it shot by Beyoncé on her laptop, in which she reflects on the realities of celebrity, the refuge she finds onstage and the transcendent joy of becoming a mother last year. The film sheds light on her childhood in Houston, with home movies revealing the close bond she built with her family and charts the challenges Beyoncé felt when she decided to manage her career and build her own company, Parkwood Entertainment. The film also captures the intense physical and emotional demands she goes through in the studio, preparing for live performances, running a business and her family life including her return to the spotlight after the birth of her daughter, Blue Ivy Carter, in January 2012. Beyoncé also serves as the film’s executive producer.

- http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/11/26/beyonce-documentary-will-premiere-february-16-2013-on-hbo/158941/ http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20651046,00.html

 Done — Oz (talk) 22:44, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 8 December 2012

please add the names in the associated section of Beyoncé's page. thank you

Shakira , Prince , Tina Turner , Missy Elliot , Big Boi , Andre 3000 , Alejandro Fernandez , Mos Def , Celine Dion , Sesame Street , Lady Gaga , Wyclef Jean , Luther Vandross , Alicia Keys , Sean Paul , Jamie Foxx , George Michael , Chris Martin , Josh Groban , Jewel , Britney Spears , P!nk

Veronique444 (talk) 22:19, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

People Beyoncé has performed with are included in the article itself - the acts in the infobox are those which she is closely associated with. I checked most of your suggestions and they are included in the article in places. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 23:05, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

New management and 4

You must add this inf, please. Thanks

"Knowles received two nominations at the 54th Grammy Awards; Best Rap/Sung Collaboration for "Party", and Best Long Form Music Video for I Am... World Tour." And in 2012, she received a nomination at the 55th Grammy Awards for "Love On Top" for Best Traditional R&B Performance.http://www.grammy.com/nominees

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.93.166.177 (talk) 00:16, 9 December 2012‎ (UTC)

2012

It's so much more than this: "In December, it was announced that Knowles had partnered with Pepsi in a deal estimated at $50 million. As reported by Billboard, Pepsi "will sponsor a variety of unspecified creative projects for Beyonce as well as help promote the singer's upcoming fifth studio album.""

Take a look at: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/10/business/media/in-beyonce-deal-pepsi-focuses-on-collaboration.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0

FOR its campaign with Beyoncé next year, Pepsi doesn’t just want to sign up the telegenic pop star for another TV commercial. It also wants to get into the Beyoncé business.

In an expansion of the recent marketing experiments that have brought PepsiCo ever closer to the music industry, the company has embarked on a hybrid project with Beyoncé that will include standard advertising like commercials as well as a multimillion-dollar fund to support the singer’s chosen creative projects.

“Pepsi embraces creativity and understands that artists evolve,” Beyoncé said in a statement. “As a businesswoman, this allows me to work with a lifestyle brand with no compromise and without sacrificing my creativity.”

The campaign will coincide with a blitz of promotion for her next album, which has no title or release date so far but is expected in 2013. Sometime after she performs at the Super Bowl halftime show on Feb. 3 (also sponsored by Pepsi), Beyoncé will appear in a new TV ad — her fifth for the soft drink since 2002 — and her face will be on a limited-edition line of soda cans.

The less conventional aspects of the deal are meant as collaborative projects that indulge Beyoncé’s creative whims, and might well have no explicit connection to Pepsi products. They are still at the brainstorm stage, but could include live events, videos, “a cool photo shoot” or almost anything else, said Lee Anne Callahan-Longo, the general manager of Parkwood Entertainment, Beyoncé’s company.

For Pepsi, the goal is to enhance its reputation with consumers by acting as something of an artistic patron instead of simply paying for celebrity endorsements.

“Consumers are seeking a much greater authenticity in marketing from the brands they love,” said Brad Jakeman, president of PepsiCo’s global beverage group. “It’s caused a shift in the way we think about deals with artists, from a transactional deal to a mutually beneficial collaboration.”

The multiyear campaign is estimated at $50 million, the bulk of it for media placements and promotions around the world, and the remainder split roughly equally between Beyoncé’s fee and what Pepsi calls a creative content development fund.

(...)

Pepsi’s deal with Beyoncé is an outgrowth of ventures like Green Label Sound, but on a scale befitting her superstar stature.

“It’s wise for a brand like Pepsi to give an artist the ability to truly express herself,” said Ms. Callahan-Longo, of Beyoncé’s company, “instead of just the old-school way of, ‘Do you want to be in an advertisement?’ ”

“This is much bigger,” she added. “This is, ‘How can we create something together that is truly unique?’ ” — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.93.166.177 (talk) 12:29, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 28 December 2012

Under the first part of the "Biography" section, it mentions Kelly Rowland as a childhood friend, when really Rowland is Knowles's cousin. 184.1.115.218 (talk) 20:48, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Do you have a source backing this up? If so, please post it here. Be careful because I do remember hearing this some time ago, but I dismissed it as a colloquial term of affection ("cousin"). Adabow (talk) 05:32, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Present

Beyoncé New Year's Eve Vegas Concert http://theybf.com/2013/01/01/beyonce-gets-big-hair-new-shiny-looks-for-private-nye-2013-performance-at-the-wynn-las — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.93.166.177 (talk) 16:43, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Not needed here. It was a private gig. — Oz 21:33, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

okey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.93.166.177 (talk) 21:49, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Legacy

Carly Rae Jepsen Excited For Beyonce's Return: "She's So Talented"

"Beyonce is one of the most talented artists I think that's out there in my personal opinion," confessed the Canadian.

She said: "I discovered this performance, just very stripped down and it was for some sort of children's hospital or something like that, and you just got to see Beyonce in her finest moment.

"Just totally acapella, smiling and beautiful, singing without any production behind her and it was one of those moments where I thought 'this woman deserves all of the attention she's getting and I was just proud."

http://www.capitalfm.com/artists/carly-rae-jepsen/news/beyonces-new-album/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.93.166.177 (talk) 01:39, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Public Image

Beyonce Knowles is on the cover of the February issue of GQ Magazine and is on the the magazine's top 100 most sexiest women of the 21st century http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/mirrorimage/Beyonce-among-the-100-most-sexy-in-GQ.html

Beyonce tops GQ's list of the "100 Sexiest Women of the 21st Century." http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/beyonce-flaunts-curves-racy-gq-cover-article-1.1236744 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.19.81.253 (talk) 13:45, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Present

Performance at 2013 Inaugural Ceremony The ceremony will take place in the Capitol on January 21.

http://www.beyonce.com/news/2013-inaugural-ceremony

pop star Beyoncé Knowles, who will perform the national anthem at the January 21 public ceremony.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/09/beyonce-to-perform-for-inauguration/ http://thatgrapejuice.net/2013/01/report-beyonce-perform-president-obamas-2013-inaugural-ceremony/

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DESTINY'S CHILD NEW ALBUM - LOVE SONGS - 2013 Beyoncé facebook: "I am so proud to announce the first original Destiny's Child music in eight years!"

http://www.beyonce.com/news/destinys-child-love-songs

Track List: http://www.eatinghiphop.com/2013/01/10/destinys-child-love-songs-album-cover-tracklist/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.19.81.253 (talk) 23:40, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Public Image

Miss Millennium: Beyoncé

"This is the hottest woman of the past thirteen years"

Read More http://www.gq.com/women/photos/201301/beyonce-cover-story-interview-gq-february-2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.19.80.163 (talk) 15:23, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Music and voice - Beyoncé revealed new process

Speaking on her songwriting process, Beyoncé said that in the past, she would start with lyrics and then look for an accompanying melody. Now, as she works with other songwriters, she explained, "It starts with the title or the concept of what I'm trying to say, and then I'll go into the booth and sing my idea. Then we work together to layer on."

The concepts can come from anywhere. "Even the silliest little thing that you hear on the radio, it comes from something deeper," she said. Recalling her Destiny's Child hit "Bootylicious," Beyoncé noted that the song was inspired by comments about her weight "and me being, like, 'I'm a Southern woman, and this is how Southern women are.' My motivation is always to express something or to heal from something or to laugh and rejoice about something."

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beyonce-working-with-justin-timberlake-pharrell-on-new-album-20130110 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.19.80.163 (talk) 15:15, 17 January 2013 (UTC)