Talk:Biological small-angle scattering
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Moving this article
editCan we move this to "Small-angle X-ray scattering (SAXS)"? It seems better to have the full name in the title. (There would of course be a redirect from "SAXS" to the new name.) Tocharianne 15:00, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me (done) Eldereft 18:24, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Having the name of a method and its abbreviation both in the article title is almost unheard of in wikipedia. I've requested the administrators for a rename of all the SAS articles at Wikipedia:Requested_moves#Uncontroversial_proposals. tpikonen 18:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- Per the WP:RM request mentioned above, I've now moved this to the title with a hyphenated small-angle and without the acronym. Since the acronym on its own redirects to here, linking or searching on either the expanded name or the acronym will end up in the same place.--cjllw ʘ TALK 05:00, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Additional References
editCould you please add R J Roe's book to the list of external references, which happens to be one of the premier texts on this subject of late. 17:42, 23 May 2007 (UTC)AK
Sure, but I do not actually work with SAXS - could you provide a title or a link or something so I can track down a copy? Eldereft 10:15, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Synchrotron Radiation
editSAXS and SANS have attained such importance primarily due to the availability of Synchrotron radiation facilities around the globe. Could you also come up with a section on different sites like APS, IPNS, Brookhaven, Oak Ridge, Los Alamos, ESRF, certain Japanese, Swiss and UK installations, with regards to their capabilities. 17:42, 23 May 2007 (UTC)AK
How about a link to List of synchrotron radiation facilities (and List of spallation neutron sources for SANS)? Even at the same synchrotron, individual beamlines may differ in terms of flux, divergence, spot size, &c., as well as optimization for e.g. liquids or nanoscale inclusions - all of which depend as much on instrumentation and staff as on synchrotron parameters. A discussion of the advances in capability made possible by advanced synchrotrons and the degree to which SAXS was taken into consideration for design parameters is certainly in order, but I am not sure that we really need a continually out of date list of availability. Eldereft 10:42, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Page move
editThere was a page move, but I can't tell what happened from looking at the histories. Were there always two articles? Right now there's this article (Biological Small-Angle X-ray Scattering) and Small-Angle X-ray Scattering (SAXS). Frankly I don't see any reason to have split them up, especially since this article has a lot of generic SAXS info. The SANS article has a section on "Biology" so maybe SAXS could have one as well. Tocharianne 13:19, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Image:Saxs_resolution3.jpg and the source of hte resolution data it presents
editImage:Saxs_resolution3.jpg presents some dubious/contentious data on the resolution ranges of various methods. What is the source for that data? The specific dubious point I have in mind is the greater resolution of NMR compared to x-ray crystallography. Agesworth 04:03, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I think this comment is justified in terms of the spatial x/y/z arrangment of molecules. But with NMR some minor effects can be studied that cannot be spatialy resolved by X-ray anymore. I am thinking about isotope effects, for instance N-H and N-D replacement where the difference in molecular dimensions is about 0.1 Angstrom, whose different behaviour can easily be tracked by NMR. Verification for these kind of data is very often only provided by quantum- mechanical calculations in combination with sophisticated experimental techniques (gas-phase spectroscopy etc.). 80.109.216.34 (talk) 11:00, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
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