Talk:Buckley

Requested move 16 July 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:30, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

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• Buckley (disambiguation) → Buckley
• Buckley → Buckley, Flintshire

– No clear primary topic, the Welsh town got 1,090 views but Buckley, Washington got 626 and Buckley (surname) got 482. This is already a negative number however US cities generally are referred to with the state included as noted at WP:USPLACE so that might still make a positive number however since the surname got nearly half views that likely doesn't satisfy "much more likely than any other anyway". There are also several other full matches but there are also partial matches with more views such as William F. Buckley Jr. with 52,534, James L. Buckley with 6,877, Buckley School (California) with 2,581, Buckley v. Valeo with 2,568, William Buckley (convict) with 2,531, Buckley Air Force Base with 2,530 and Buckley School (New York City) with 1,890[[1]]. Others on the surname page such as Jeff Buckley got 63,665, Jessie Buckley got 31,616, Betty Buckley got 17,189, Tim Buckley got 16,876, Christopher Buckley (novelist) got 13,557, A. J. Buckley got 11,607, Ginny Buckley got 9,885, Nathan Buckley got 8,158, William Francis Buckley got 4,236, Patricia Buckley got 3,592, Dylan Buckley got 3,092, Keith Buckley got 2,699, Lord Buckley got 2,007 and David Buckley got 1,530[[2]] again though these are PTMs. Google results are mixed though most are PTMs or things we don't cover. Images and Books mainly return people with this name and although as noted they are PTMs it does somewhat highlight the importance of the surname which the article notes is the 435th most common name in the United Kingdom and 234th in England and Wales. In terms of long-term significance the surname could derive from any of the settlements with this name (or including it in the name) as well as similarly named places such as Buckleigh[3] so its unlikely that all the other uses derive from this one and even if they did per WP:DETERMINEPRIMARY that doesn't necessarily make it primary. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:17, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

• Support Even among just the geographic places (and ignoring the other topics like William F. Buckley) there does not seem to be a primary topic here. --Yaksar (let's chat) 17:42, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nomination and Yaksar. There are 36 entries at the Buckley (disambiguation) page in addition to the large number of people listed under Buckley (surname). As a contender for WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, Buckley, Flintshire, which counts around 20,000 inhabitants is definitely dwarfed by such competition. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:42, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• Support, clear absence of a primary topic given the sheer number of uses and the relative paucity of importance of the current occupant of the base page name. BD2412 T 01:21, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
• Support. William F. Buckley is closer to being primary than the town. Srnec (talk) 02:18, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
• Suppot per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:03, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nom. No clear primary topic. When in doubt, disambiguate. Paintspot Infez (talk) 17:15, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
• Support but note that the closer will need to fix the 225 incoming wikilinks (otherwise I would have just closed it myself). -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:14, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

  @JHunterJ: I have DisamAssist so if you move the pages I can easily clean up the links. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:22, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

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