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Burna-Buriash I

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The official cylinder seal of Burna-Buriash I of Babylon was found in a Mycenaean site in Greece (possibly Mycenae itself.

source: E. H. Cline, “The Multivalent Nature of Imported Objects in the Ancient Mediterranean World,” in R. Laffineur and E. Greco (eds.), EMPORIA. Aegeans in the Central and Eastern Mediterranean [Aegaeum 25] (Liège/Austin 2005) p48. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.132.184.157 (talk) 10:43, 22 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

An impression of the seal can be viewed here https://feldman.berkeley.edu:453/?course=nes128&do=detail&imgid=00770.

This seal bears an inscription naming the seal owner as an official of the 14th c. Kassite king Burra-Burriash. The image depicts a mountain god holding vessels from which water flows. So it is probably a Burna Buriash II era seal.BigEars42 (talk) 15:27, 16 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Sequence of events at end of Burna Buriash II’s reign

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The last paragraph summarizes the post-Burna Buriash events, whose source documents are an Assyrian Chronicle written some time after 810 BC and a Babylonian Chronicle which is probably based on the Assyrian one, so both were composed more than 500 years after the events they describe.

There is no consensus amongst historians, however there is clearly a trend for disregarding the Babylonian Chronicle P as an accurate description of the events. This chronicle superimposes the predecessors of Kurigalzu I over those of Kurigalzu II, even including details such as Kadashman-harbe I’s successful campaign against the Suteans and his construction activities.

The following table is a summary of the positions taken: -

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References from table above

^ ”The Synchronistic Chronicle”, http://www.livius.org/cg-cm/chronicles/abc21/synchronistic1.html
^ Chronicle P http://www.livius.org/cg-cm/chronicles/abc22/p.html
^ Gaston Maspero, “The struggle of the nations: Egypt, Syria and Assyria”, Soc. for Promoting Christian Knowledge, 1896
^ Robert William Rogers, "A history of Babylonia and Assyria, Volume 1", Eaton & Mains, 1900
^ Olaf Alfred Toffteen, "Ancient chronology", University of Chicago Press, 1907
^ Hugo Winckler, "The history of Babylonia and Assyria", Hodder & Stoughton, 1907
^ George Cormack, "Egypt in Asia; a plain account of pre-Biblical Syria and Palestine", Adam & Charles Black, 1908
^ Samuel Macauley Jackson, "The New Schaff-Herzog encyclopedia of religious knowledge", Funk & Wagnalls Company, 1908
^ Morris Jastrow, "The civilization of Babylonia and Assyria", J. B. Lippincott Company, 1915
^ James Orr, "The International standard Bible encyclopaedia, Volume 1", Howard-Severance Company, 1915
^ Lewis Bayles Patton, "Assyria and Prussia, An Historical Parallel", in The Hibbert journal, Volume 15, Sherman, French & Co., 1916
^ Elihu Grant, "The Orient in Bible times", J. B. Lippincott Company, 1920
^ Georges Roux, "Ancient Iraq", George Allen & Unwin, 1964
^ Roger T. O'Callaghan, "Aram Naharaim. A contribution to the history of upper Mesopotamia in the ...", 1968
^ C. J. Gadd, "The Cambridge Ancient History Volume 2 Part 2 The Middle East and the Aegean Region c1380-1000 BC", Cambridge University Press, 1975
^ Amélie Kuhrt, "The ancient Near East, c. 3000-330 BC", Routledge, 1995
^ Trevor Bryce, "Letters of the great kings of the ancient Near East: the royal correspondence of the late bronze age", Routledge, 2003
^ Leonhard Sassmannshausen, "Babylonian Chronology of the 2nd half of the 2nd Millennium B.C."
^ Sarah C. Melville, “Royal Women and the Exercise of Power in the Near East" 2005
^ Jane McIntosh, "Ancient Mesopotamia: new perspectives", ABC-CLIO, Inc, 2005
^ Marc Van Der Mieroop, "The Eastern Mediterranean in the Age of Ramesses II", Blackwell Publishing, 2010

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[1] ”The Synchronistic Chronicle”, http://www.livius.org/cg-cm/chronicles/abc21/synchronistic1.html

[2] Chronicle P http://www.livius.org/cg-cm/chronicles/abc22/p.html

[3] Gaston Maspero, “The struggle of the nations: Egypt, Syria and Assyria”, Soc. for Promoting Christian Knowledge, 1896

[4] Robert William Rogers, "A history of Babylonia and Assyria, Volume 1", Eaton & Mains, 1900

[5] Olaf Alfred Toffteen, "Ancient chronology", University of Chicago Press, 1907

[6] Hugo Winckler, "The history of Babylonia and Assyria", Hodder & Stoughton, 1907

[7] George Cormack, "Egypt in Asia; a plain account of pre-Biblical Syria and Palestine", Adam & Charles Black, 1908

[8] Samuel Macauley Jackson, "The New Schaff-Herzog encyclopedia of religious knowledge", Funk & Wagnalls Company, 1908

[9] Morris Jastrow, "The civilization of Babylonia and Assyria", J. B. Lippincott Company, 1915

[10] James Orr, "The International standard Bible encyclopaedia, Volume 1", Howard-Severance Company, 1915

[11] Lewis Bayles Patton, "Assyria and Prussia, An Historical Parallel", in The Hibbert journal, Volume 15, Sherman, French & Co., 1916

[12] Elihu Grant, "The Orient in Bible times", J. B. Lippincott Company, 1920

[13] Georges Roux, "Ancient Iraq", George Allen & Unwin, 1964

[14] Roger T. O'Callaghan, "Aram Naharaim. A contribution to the history of upper Mesopotamia in the ...", 1968

[15] C. J. Gadd, "The Cambridge Ancient History Volume 2 Part 2 The Middle East and the Aegean Region c1380-1000 BC", Cambridge University Press, 1975

[16] Amélie Kuhrt, "The ancient Near East, c. 3000-330 BC", Routledge, 1995

[17] Trevor Bryce, "Letters of the great kings of the ancient Near East: the royal correspondence of the late bronze age", Routledge, 2003

[18] Leonhard Sassmannshausen, "Babylonian Chronology of the 2nd half of the 2nd Millennium B.C."

[19] Sarah C. Melville, “Royal Women and the Exercise of Power in the Near East" 2005

[20] Jane McIntosh, "Ancient Mesopotamia: new perspectives", ABC-CLIO, Inc, 2005

[21] Marc Van Der Mieroop, "The Eastern Mediterranean in the Age of Ramesses II", Blackwell Publishing, 2010

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Opinion	Published	Mubalitat-Sherua married	Son called	Murdered party	Kurigalzu II is
Assyrian Scribe^[1]	after 810 BC	Doesn't say	Kara Khardash	Kara Khardash or Kara Indash	Son of Burna Buriash
Babylonian Scribe^[2]	after 810 BC	By implication Burna Buriash	Kara Indash	Kadashman-Kharbe	Son of Kadashman-Kharbe
Gaston Maspero^[3]	1896	Kara Khardash	Kadashman-Kharbe	Kadashman-Kharbe	grandson of Assur-uballit
Robert William Rogers^[4]	1900	Kara Khardash	Kadashman-Kharbe	Kadashman-Kharbe	Son of Kadashman-Kharbe
Olaf Alfred Toffteen^[5]	1907	Kara Khardash	Kadashman-Kharbe	Kara Khardash & Kadashman-Kharbe	Son of Burna Buriash
Hugo Winckler^[6]	1907	Kara Indash	Kadashman-Kharbe	Kadashman-Kharbe	Great grandson of Assur-uballit
George Cormack ^[7]	1908	Kara Indash	Kadashman-Kharbe	Not mentioned	Great grandson of Assur-uballit
Samuel Macauley Jackson^[8]	1908	Kara Khardash	Not named	Kara Khardash's son	Doesn't say
Morris Jastrow^[9]	1915	Kara Khardash	Kara Indash	Kara Indash	Son of Burna Buriash
James Orr^[10]	1915	Kara Indash	Kara Indash	Not mentioned	Son of Burna Buriash
Lewis Bayles Patton^[11]	1916	Burna Buriash	Kara Khardash	Kara Khardash	Grandson of Assur-uballit
Elihu Grant^[12]	1920	Kara Indash	Kadashman-Kharbe	Kadashman-Kharbe	Great grandson of Assur-uballit
Georges Roux^[13]	1964	Burna Buriash	Not named	Assur-uballit's grandson	Doesn't say
Roger T. O'Callaghan ^[14]	1968	Burna Buriash	Kara Khardash or Kadashman-Kharbe	Kara Khardash or Kadashman-Kharbe	son of Burna Buriash, grandson of Assur-uballit
C. J. Gadd^[15]	1975	Burna Buriash or Kara Khardash	Kadashman-Kharbe	Kadashman-Kharbe	Son of Kadashman-Kharbe
Amélie Kuhrt^[16]	1995	Kara Indash	Kara Khardash	Kara Khardash	Son of Burna Buriash
Trevor Bryce^[17]	2003	Kara Indash	Kara Khardash	Kara Khardash	Doesn't say
Leonhard Sassmannshausen^[18]	2004	Not mentioned	Not named	Kardashman-Harbe	Doesn't say
Sarah C. Melville^[19]	2005	Burna Buriash	Not named	Burna Buriash's son	Doesn't say
Jane McIntosh^[20]	2005	Burna Buriash	Kara Khardash	Kara Khardash	Son of Burna Buriash
Marc Van Der Mieroop^[21]	2010	Burna Buriash	Kara Khardash	Kara Khardash	Grandson of Assur-uballit
Wikipedia article	2011	Burna Buriash or Kara Khardash	Not included in narrative	Kara Khardash	Son of Burna Buriash or Kara Khardash