Talk:Etymology of cannabis

Indo-european inherited vs. Scythian loanword

Why couldn't the cannabis-words in the IE languages simply be inherited from proto IE (*kan(n)aP- or the like)? Do we really need Barber's theory? Why would a language take up a loanword when it already has the (probably more or less identical) inherited word? Does anyone know other sources where this is discussed?

grimm's law

Why does it say it predates Grimm's Law? Doesn't c->h follow Grimm's Law?

It must mean that it was a loan to Germanic before the phenomenon described by Grimm.--Ioscius ^(talk) 19:10, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

mechoulam

Don't know what cannabis Mechoulam is smoking, but there is no Ezekiel 5:22 . . . --Ioscius ^(talk) 02:46, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

The reference to "pannag" is found in Ezekiel 27:17. I have changed the article to reflect this. Alaue (talk) 22:09, 28 January 2008 (UTC)Alaue

Cannabis in Hebrew

Hello everyone.

In the article it says that in Hebrew Cannabis is pronounced "Cannabos". Well, I live in Israel, and I must say it is wrong. The word was never used in any of the holy documents (Old Testament, Talmud, etc.) and isn't at all used daily. People just say Cannabis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ore4444 (talk • contribs) 15:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

The part canabis exists in the Bible is complete nonsense, there is no any linguistic proof for this. If this is a scientific article please give scientific sources or remove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.247.49.84 (talk) 13:16, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

GREEK by way of Latin from Greek?

Someone should clarify. After all Thracians spoke Greek, Trace was a Greek state (or became, if you prefer), and there is no written form of any other language from the ancient frontier of northern Greece. Thracian dialects would only be written down in Greek, the same with Galatian ([Celt] Asian branch) or any other spoken tongue; unless this is specifically referred to in an ancient text (i.e. Herodotus).

It is confusing, because the word doesn't seem to be "unified" Greek (Modern) instead it seems that it is dialectical Greek (ancient) of which Trace would be included...as a sub-group of the Macedonian Greek dialect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.182.158.197 (talk) 02:38, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Incidentally the etymology section (main article) is wrong! After checking the citation, the reference states that the word is from Modern or M. Latin from Greek not the other way around and when the entire entry is read it states that the Greek source attributes the word to Scythian or Trace. (This comment is directed at the main article, both Wikipedia entries do not match each other) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.182.158.197 (talk) 02:49, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

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Missing context in the "Indo-European etymologies" section

The Barber quote is undecipherable because of missing context:

People all across the middle latitudes of Europe and Asia – and that would include the early Indo-Europeans (IE's) – knew and were using hemp [aka cannabis, both low-THC and high-THC strains?] since 5000 B.C. So when IE groups started borrowing a new word [What is the new word? What was the old word?] four millennia later, it had to have been for a new use: drugs. The old northern varieties of hemp did not contain the narcotic THC, and the 2nd millennium was probably the first time that enough people were travelling back and forth between Iran (where it [Missing referent, THC-bearing hemp perhaps?] grew) and eastern Europe that they could spread a habit, along with its source, the THC-bearing hemp. And the early 1st-millennium B.C. is just when we begin to find evidence for pot-smoking in the new zone.

Perhaps it would be better to paraphrase using Wikipedia's terminology rather than quoting.

Page Notes (talk) 00:26, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

The etymology is speculative

The sources used for the etymology in the opening are popular press and not credible. I used a source using linguists. There are no credible scholars who claim a for certain origin of cannabis being from Scythian, which this page later goes into the various theories. Please consider my source instead of the popular press sources. Ari Feldstein (talk) 17:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

This inappropriate comment has been struck out, per WP:STRIKESOCK. Ari Feldstein has been identified as a sockpuppet of Tommygunn7886, who also edited with the same anti-Scythian POV. A Rainbow Footing It (talk) 19:30, 5 August 2024 (UTC)