Talk:Carolyn Goodman

Semi-protected edit request on 1 September 2015

Moved here from Wikipedia talk:Why create an account? -- John of Reading (talk) 18:49, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

"Goodman endorsed Joe Heck for U.S. Senate in 2016. She is a registered Nonpartisan." Please remove: "However, there are unconfirmed reports that she would later change her mind and endorse Catherine Cortez Masto for U.S. Senate in 2016." as it is untrue and unsourced. Please change party affiliation from "Independent" to "Nonpartisan"

Llkalkman (talk) 18:27, 1 September 2015 (UTC) Thank you.

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Your request was misplaced; please post any further requests on this page. I have removed some information from the article that had no source. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:49, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 23 April 2020

change "is an American politician" to "is not an American politician" per her interview on CNN, April 22, interviewed by Anderson Cooper. 2601:14D:8380:730:204A:48:8D91:2052 (talk) 00:36, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done per WP:NOTOPINION. NedFausa (talk) 00:39, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Re-added material and ref without Cooper's judgemental wording per edit summary request

Per edit summary request see [1]Ward20 (talk) 17:10, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

My edit summary you cite requested "please do not restore without consensus at Talk:Carolyn Goodman (politician))." You have peremptorily restored this disputed content without consensus. Please allow time for discussion and for consensus to form. NedFausa (talk) 17:23, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

No, I took out the qualification by Cooper that the statement was ignorant. It is now a simple contrast of Goodman's and Cooper's positions without any qualifications. The referenced news article is much more critical of Goodman's statements than the material presented in this section. If anything, the material is slanted in favor of Goodman compared to the criticism in this and other WP:RS. I fail to see how this material is not WP:NPOV. Please be specific as how the material you removed violates WP:NPOV. Thanking you in advance. Ward20 (talk) 17:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

You added: Cooper demonstrated an actual case of a restaurant patron in China that infected multiple persons from nearby tables, and then Goodman interjected, "This isn't China, this is Las Vegas, Nevada." Cooper exclaimed, "...yes it's in China, but they are human beings, too." This cringe-worthy banter violates Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, which expressly includes Wikipedia's core content policy of NPOV. In particular, editors must adhere strictly to WP:BLPBALANCE by not giving disproportionate space to particular viewpoints. Anderson Cooper's argumentative, grandstanding, self-righteous viewpoint serves solely to disparage the subject of our BLP. It is gratuitous, unnecessary, and unacceptable. We should focus on what Mayor Goodman said, not on Mr. Cooper's snappy repartee. NedFausa (talk) 18:05, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't believe that focusing on what Mayor Goodman said,and excluding Cooper's rebuttal is WP:NPOV or WP:BLPBALANCED. Nor is Cooper exclaimed, "...yes it's in China, but they are human beings, too." an expression of cringe-worthy banter, or an argumentative, grandstanding, self-righteous viewpoint. This is not lifted directly from the interview, but the POV of the article from the Washinton Post[2] which also included these criticisms of Goodman:

"Meanwhile, Nevada’s largest union issued a harsher critique, calling Goodman’s remarks “outrageous.” In a statement, the Culinary Workers Union said it has lost 11 members to the coronavirus."

"Those comments raised eyebrows, and ridicule, nationally. While other public officials have urged swift reopenings of local business, most have based their argument on the idea that it’s safe to do so. Meanwhile, Goodman is advancing what Tur described as a “modern-day survival of the fittest.”

“We need to send a sincere message and a consistent message,” Sisolak, the Nevada governor, told Cooper. “It’s difficult when we get one person that’s leading people astray, and I’m disappointed in that.”

Additionally, Newsweek[3] had a similar article that stated, "Nevada's Democratic Governor Steve Sisolak on Wednesday condemned Las Vegas Mayor Carolyn Goodman's push to reopen her city and asserted that the state is "clearly not ready to open."

CNN Business[4], Fox Vegas[5], ABC News[6], and many more WP:RS ran similar articles covering similar points and criticisms so this is not just one biased POV or unbalanced viewpoint. Ward20 (talk) 19:18, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the additional sources. I believe you're blowing this out of all proportion, but we'll see what other editors say. NedFausa (talk) 19:22, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

I think adding the rest of cooper's side is unbalanced as well as not very encyclopaedic. At the same time, the other, sharper criticisms from the governor et al should be included. Either way, are the best sources for this the daily beast and gizmodo?. 23:18, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 26 April 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved, and will subsequently delete the orphan dab. -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:51, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

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• Carolyn Goodman (politician) → Carolyn Goodman
• Carolyn Goodman → Carolyn Goodman (disambiguation)

– WP:TWODABS. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:56, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Note: target or "new" titles cannot have non-redirected content unless they are also to be moved. So this request has been altered to reflect that requirement. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 08:02, 26 April 2020 (UTC) 02:05, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

• Against the move, per WP:NOPRIMARY. It is not clear that Carolyn Goodman (politician) has a greater lasting notability than Carolyn Goodman (psychologist), noise in the visits from current developments notwithstanding.--Asqueladd (talk) 03:17, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
• Support move over the disambiguation page. Page views tell me the politician is consistently the more popular target and hence primary topic. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:08, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
• Support move per Shhhnotsoloud. Page views are decisive. NedFausa (talk) 17:38, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
• Support. This is most definitely the primary target (don't forget the hat on the new page). Hydromania (talk) 23:12, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

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