Talk:Charles de Gaulle–Étoile station

Requested move 07 March 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: MOVED to Charles de Gaulle – Étoile. Per consensus. Hadal (talk) 17:21, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

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Charles de Gaulle – Étoile (Paris Métro and RER) → Charles de Gaulle – Étoile – No namesake articles, so no disambiguator needed – Midas02 (talk) 01:16, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). EdJohnston (talk) 02:23, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose - whether there's another namesake article is irrelevant, see WP:DAB; are there no other topics? In ictu oculi (talk) 04:29, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Frommer's suggests that the square above the metro is also known as Charles de Gaulle – Étoile Hence Place Charles de Gaulle-Étoile exists as another topic with the same name and place. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:08, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Good point wouldn't want to inconvenience the American tourists. Luckily, Wikipedia has hatnotes for just that purpose. I'll add one now. —  AjaxSmack  10:24, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

In ictu oculi, you're talking nonsense, and are using other nonsense to justify it. WP/DAB has nothing to do with the naming of articles, the guidelines for the naming of articles do. So please indicate where WP/DAB would be relevant, cause mere mentioning it will not do. As per the naming guidelines, unless there are namesake articles, or articles that could be called by that name, there is no reason for disambiguating.

As for the Frommer's argument. The ... what? What is Frommer's? An American guide, so they decide on what French streetnames are called? Just to be clear, the above mentioned place is called Place de l'Etoile in everyday use. Although the official name has become Place CDG, but it's still called by its former name. Maybe, just maybe, the old name is still co-official as well, would need to look it up. But never, ever, was that place called CDG-Etoile. Never. The hatnote is therefore inappropriate as well, the reference to the square is already mentioned in the article. --Midas02 (talk) 15:29, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

See WP:TRUTH even if Frommer's is wrong to say Charles de Gaulle – Étoile is used of the square as well as the subway underneath it, Frommer's is still WP:RS. And don't please throw around "nonsense" or I may resort to posting you a kitten on your User Talk page. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:26, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

• Support per User:In ictu oculi (sic). There are no other topics with this name. WP:TWODABS, i.e. WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. —  AjaxSmack  02:41, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

  Can you clarify the argument that the station, and not Place Charles de Gaulle/Étoile, is the primary topic? I would have thought otherwise. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 16:55, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

  While the square is the primary meaning of "Place Charles de Gaulle–Étoile", that is not the title proposed here. None of the sources in User:In ictu oculi's book search use simply Charles de Gaulle – Étoile for the square[1]. —  AjaxSmack  00:51, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

• Support per AjaxSmack. Few if any Google Books hits use the term "https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#tbm=bks&q=%22Charles+de+Gaulle+-+Etoile%22 "Charles de Gaulle - Etoile"] to mean Place Charles de Gaulle, without adding Place. There are thousands of hits for the metro station under the proposed title, which already redirects here. The hatnote will be sufficient to guide mistaken readers to the Place article.--Cúchullain ^t/c 12:54, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
• Support. Unnecessary disambiguation. The title (without disambiguator) is completely unambiguous and very widely used. Andrewa (talk) 19:34, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

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