Talk:Chavismo

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Latest comment: 4 years ago by Klayman55 in topic Neutrality


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that's great, so what is chavismo again? 219.74.57.232 14:21, 2 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

What really is Chavismo?

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Well, Chavismo is a kind of Neo-Fascism. Such as Fascism was, Chavismo is: 1-Anti-americanist. 2-Statist. 3-Corrupt. 4-Demagogue. 5-Personalist. 6-Anti-semithist. 7-Militarist. 8-Friend of growing of public spending. 9-A Left's movement. Agre22 (talk) 00:25, 4 December 2009 (UTC)agre22Reply

Wikipedia is not a forum. Do you have sources to support those assertions? JRSP (talk) 11:12, 4 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

users like agre22 are the same type of editors that edited this page to make the Chavez supporters seem "evil". That was why it was marked as non neutral. I like wikipedia, but this site MUST improve on their neutrality standards if they are to stay successful.

What agenda are users like Agree22 and Zialater are trying to promote!?

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Neutrality

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This article is not neutral. It does not say anything about the criticisms to Chavismo, such as its populism and autoritarism Cambalachero (talk) 13:47, 7 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

it comes across as too critical to me, tbh. the last quote is very obviously a neoliberal opinion piece rather than an actual material analysis of the situation. 109.154.216.60 (talk) 22:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
agreed, it needs more about the criticism in the opening. Obviously criticism is coming from more on the political spectrum than just "neoliberals." Klayman55 (talk) 10:48, 23 January 2020 (UTC)Klayman55Reply

This was too critical, not talking about the positive but focusing on the negative is one of the pet peeves of this article, it has literally turned into a circle-jerk rant about Chavismo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.155.141.7 (talk) 18:29, 12 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Exactly, a good article needs information on both positive and negative assessments on its subject in order to be unbiased. On that note, a section about "Critical Chavismo" (i.e. dissident Chavistas) would be a good start. Charles Essie (talk) 19:21, 1 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Paraphrasing vs Block Quotes

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Relative to the total content, much of the information is block quotes. Wiki prefers paraphrasing. Something to consider for future edits. --Lucas559 (talk) 16:53, 22 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

Dating commentary (and 'placing' past optimism)

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The section Commentary has various quotes, some of which have dates of the commentaries noted. The comment with introduction "The Nation noted on its editorial pages that:" has no date, and is jarring (now) in its positivism. If the date were noted, Dec 2007, the reader would be more likely to place the circumstances for the positive evaluation. Much has happened in the ensuing 10 years... Shenme (talk) 17:07, 24 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 17 March 2016

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The result of the move request was: No consensus; so leave it for now. Dicklyon (talk) 04:33, 20 April 2016 (UTC)Reply


ChavismChavismo – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Charles Essie (talk) 00:47, 17 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

  • oppose WP:USEENGLISH on English Wikipedia, not Spanish. The English name is "Chavism" while the Spanish name is "Chavismo". Looking at Spanish language for the Common Name is not the correct way to name topics. Otherwise, why not use Cyrillic for Russian topics? -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 04:28, 17 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Chavismo

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I don't know why they seem to think otherwise, but I think we had consensus to move. Charles Essie (talk) 23:25, 28 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Charles Essie: Significantly, the page was originally at Chavismo and then moved to Chavism without discussion. I was able to undo this move. The argument that high-quality English-language sources use Chavismo I find compelling. Also, Chavism looks strange, as it could easily be taken to refer to the chav phenomenon instead. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 22:22, 22 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Florian Blaschke: It appears that this article has been moved back. We might have no choice but to start another move discussion. Charles Essie (talk) 23:09, 23 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
I've moved it back, again. Berty688 had missed or ignored my argument that the original move – from Chavismo to Chavism – had already been invalid because it had happened without discussion; therefore the status quo is Chavismo. This was also not recognised in the discussion above. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 22:34, 27 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
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Marxism/Communism

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No mention of either. This article needs a complete overhaul. Gabrielthursday (talk) 03:40, 27 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Requested move 3 November 2017

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 10:50, 12 November 2017 (UTC)Reply


ChavismChavismo – This page has been moved back and forth about four times now. It's clear that we need to have another discussion. @70.51.46.39, AdjectivesAreBad, Anthony Appleyard, Berty688, Cuchullain, Florian Blaschke, Irxvini, and Plantdrew: I invite you all to participate. Charles Essie (talk) 18:34, 3 November 2017 (UTC)Reply


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