Talk:Christian Science Plaza

Christian Science Plaza

Hello,

I’m an employee of The First Church of Christ, Scientist. I would suggest naming this page Christian Science Plaza, instead of Christian Science Center. While the location that this entry refers to has in the past been called Christian Science Center, it is most often known now as Christian Science Plaza. See a recent Boston Globe article. Also, the two most popular map apps refer to it as Christian Science Plaza: Google Maps and Waze.

I am requesting that consideration be given to updating this.

FirsthandPOV-CCS (talk) 15:44, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Reply 20-JUL-2023

  Please use WP:RMCM  

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Regards,  Spintendo  01:03, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 24 July 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) ❯❯❯ Raydann^(Talk) 16:41, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

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Christian Science Center → Christian Science Plaza – As per above, I am initiating a move request. While the location that this entry refers to has in the past been called Christian Science Center, it is most often known now as Christian Science Plaza. See a recent Boston Globe article. Also, the two most popular map apps refer to it as Christian Science Plaza: Google Maps and Waze. FirsthandPOV-CCS (talk) 21:18, 24 July 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Adumbrativus (talk) 04:28, 4 August 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} 14:13, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

• Neutral Regretfully, I have to oppose. Wikipedia's titling guidelines say we should use the most common name in independent, reliable sources, even if that is not the official name. It appears from a search of Google Ngrams (a corpus of English-language books) that Christian Science Center is still substantially more common. SilverLocust 💬 06:00, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

  Hi @SilverLocust: I appreciate your comment. I thought that leading electronic maps and the major local newspaper, in this instance The Boston Globe, were highly reliable, independent sources for determining a widely accepted name for a place, as per WP:WIAN. And my understanding is that using Google Ngrams should be done with care, especially here where there was a name change and the article is about the location as it is currently known. FirsthandPOV-CCS (talk) 20:12, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

The Boston Globe is a good source, though it is one example rather than systematic. If I have not used Ngrams "with care", my argument can be weighed accordingly. I suppose Google Maps can be taken into account, though I don't know that its names are considered reliable. If they were, WP:WIAN would probably list it as an example instead of NatGeo. Meanwhile, Waze (a Google subsidiary) uses Google Maps data. I would like to see what editors here think. (I am changing to neutral because I see at least a couple mentions in books in the past decade that were references to news articles before the 1990s.) SilverLocust 💬 08:19, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Text not matching title

Now that this article has been moved according to the guidelines, I’d suggest making the changes to the body of the article necessary to align it with the title. FirsthandPOV-CCS (talk) 18:44, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Reply 25-OCT-2023

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Kindly open a new edit request at your earliest convenience when ready to proceed.
Regards,  Spintendo  03:22, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback above Spintendo. Per your request, I’m initiating a new edit request. The first sentence of each of the first two sections refers to the old name of the article, “Christian Science Center.” I’d suggest updating them to match the current name of the article, “Christian Science Plaza.”

Also, the word “center” in the second sentence of the lead paragraph could be changed to “plaza” and the last phrase of that sentence – “which refers to it as Christian Science Plaza” – could be dropped, since it is redundant. FirsthandPOV-CCS (talk) 13:46, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Reply 1-NOV-2023

  Edit request implemented    Spintendo  14:44, 1 November 2023 (UTC)