Talk:Climate of Alaska

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Avi8tor in topic Level of Precision

Should there be a reference for the almost-plaguerized second paragraph? -mercer5089

Anchorage's climate is subarctic (Dfc) due to it's short, cool summers, according to article. This is only partially true, as that explanation also applies to the oceanic sub Arctic Cfc climate. Anchorage, in addition, has a colder winter with at least one month colder than -3 Centigrades (24-hr average). Orcaborealis (talk) 21:34, 18 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Level of Precision

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Reference the discussion below on the User_talk:Jasper_Deng on the level of precision needed when converting Fahrenheit to Celsius, can someone please give a third opinion on this discussion with reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Units_of_measurement unit conversion

Hello Jasper Deng. I see you changed my edit of Climate of Alaska "while in the winter, the temperature can fall below −50 °F (−45.6 °C)" The Fahrenheit temperature is rounded to the nearest 10°F, it's not an exact temperature, if it were exact it would perhaps read 50.5°F, We are talking about the whole state of Alaska here, therefore why the unnecessary precision for the conversion? Avi8tor (talk) 06:45, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
   The key word is “below” but not with your reasoning. It’s not a supremum of a set of measurements and thus not subject to measurement error.—Jasper Deng (talk) 06:56, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

I'd also point out the following from the Manual of Style "Whenever a conversion is used, ensure that the precision of the converted quantity in the article is comparable to the precision of the value given by the source (see § Unit conversions)". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Units_of_measurement Avi8tor (talk) 07:09, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

   And there is no talk of “precision” here because we are not talking about measurements. Thus that is not applicable.—Jasper Deng (talk) 07:43, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
       A temperature is a measurement ! If you look further down the page you'll see the record minimum and maximum temperatures, they are way colder than this. Here we have the temperature can fall below xx. The xx°F has no decimal place therefore by the manual of Style the conversion should have no decimal. If it states the temperature is in the 90's, that's a difference of 10°F or 5°C. Avi8tor (talk) 08:08, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
           No. Temperature is a thermodynamic state variable, independent of any measurements. This is an exact conversion, we do not need to needlessly drop the precision. Your only option is to get a third opinion because you clearly do not understand what a measurement is, versus an exact cutoff.--Jasper Deng (talk) 08:46, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

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