Talk:Collège Montmorency

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved to Collège Montmorency. Favonian (talk) 10:52, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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College Montmorency → Collège Montmorency – Francophone collegiate institution, its homepage is here. P.T. Aufrette (talk) 03:00, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

• Comment this being English Wikipedia, and WP:OFFICIALNAME/WP:RS/WP:UE, you should cite a non-primary source, in English, such as The Gazette. 70.24.251.208 (talk) 06:01, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

  Since you yourself have provided a citation per the criteria you specify, would you therefore support this requested move? — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 21:18, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

  Yes, Support per usage in Montreal English (WP:ENGVAR) . 70.24.251.208 (talk) 04:22, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose as there's no diacritics in the English alphabet. We already have a French Wikipedia, we don't need two. GoodDay (talk) 13:32, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
• Support per WP:ENGVAR usage. Agathoclea (talk) 09:34, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
• Support - this isn't just "Montreal English" (70.24.251.x) but English. English and "English Wikipedia" do use French accents for French terms. 70.24.251.x 's link to the Montreal Gazette actually has "Collège Montmorency" not Montmorency College, yes, but we'd do the same if the college was in London, or Paris or wherever and had this name. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:12, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment, I'm requesting that you stop adding diacritics to this article's content, while it's got a non-diacritics title. By adding dios to the content, it appears as though you're attempting to influence this RM's result. If the article does get 'moved' to diacritics? then you can add them. GoodDay (talk) 20:13, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
    • GoodDay. Is this addressed to P.T. Aufrette or myself or any 3rd editor who may revert your removals next? This article has had French accents in the French names in the lede since 2006. you removed French accents and cedilla from "CÉGEP" "Collège" "François Allard" and "Collège" here and have been reverted twice. I'm assuming the next editor to see it will revert it again. It is completely inappropriate. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:47, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
• Support; more accurate name. Diacritics are clearly used in English where appropriate; no matter how often GoodDay says otherwise. bobrayner (talk) 10:40, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
• Support. If this institution had an established English name, it would probably be "Montmorency College", not "College Montmorency". HandsomeFella (talk) 13:11, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment actually, common usage might skew towards Montmorency CEGEP rather than "Montmorency College", though ENGVAR usage has already been shown as "Collège Montmorency". 70.24.251.208 (talk) 06:02, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

    Collège Montmorency is a CEGEP (in French the acronym is written as a non-uppercase word, i.e., cégep), and at one time its name may have been Cégep Montmorency. There is a history of other CEGEPs changing their title in this way, for instance Cégep Gérald-Godin became Collège Gérald-Godin; it is still a CEGEP but the word isn't used in its name anymore. The standard practice for English usage within Quebec is to just give the names of francophone educational institutions as-is, so for instance Université de Montréal is written that way in English (and is pronounced in the French way, including the "Montréal" part of it, rather than the usual English pronunciation of "Montreal"). I doubt that you'd see "Montmorency CEGEP" used at all, especially since its name no longer includes "CEGEP" (or cégep). — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 16:10, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

• Support per the above compelling evidence. -DJSasso (talk) 13:42, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

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