Talk:Comparative officer ranks of World War II
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Luftwaffe
edit@Skjoldbro: hey, just curious, why can't the Ranks and insignia of the Luftwaffe (1935–1945) be included on this page? Cheers - wolf 16:50, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Thewolfchild: Hey, thanks for reaching out. The ranks can be include, but I just don't believe that it is necessary. Right now, every rank shown on the page, is different; It either has a unique name or insignia. The Luftwaffe has neither. The only difference is the Waffenfarben, and even then there is a large overlap. As the ranks are presented now, the junior officers can either be army infantry or Division Hermann Göring. As such, I believe it will only be unnecessary repetition. Skjoldbro (talk) 07:19, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- I would say it's just as worthy of inclusion as say, the Royal Yugoslav Air Force, but more so since the rank of Reichsmarschall is of the Luftwaffe. Cheers - wolf 08:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- I would say the Yugoslav Air Force is more worthy, as it actually has distinctive insignia. You don't feel like the it is already covered the way it is presented now? All the insignia and rank names are already shown. Would you also want to add the Polish Air Force insignia? Skjoldbro (talk) 09:16, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- I was only made aware of the missing Luftwaffe ranks by a discussion on the (now deleted) SS-Volksmarschall page. I wasn't made aware of other missing rank sets, such as the Polish Air Force, but I don't see the harm in including any of them, (in fact, the more the better, I say). The page isn't at a size yet where we need to conserve space. - wolf 16:47, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- Interesting, what was the discussion about?
I think including ranks simply because they have a different colour, doesn't added anything and will only clutter the page. However, if air force ranks are to be added, then the ranks and insignia have to be added for the air forces of: Belgium, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Finland, Germany, Poland, and the Soviet Union. That is, if only branches are included. If service components are also included, then the remaining countries also needs to be added: Denmark, Japan, Netherlands, Norway, United States. Skjoldbro (talk) 12:54, 22 July 2022 (UTC)- Meh, like I said, the more the better. The page wouldn't become cluttered, as it's still divided by countries and sub-divided by military branch, it would just be longer. But, that's just my opinion. - wolf 15:40, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- Respectfully disagree, but that is just my opinion ;) However, if you have a strong feeling about it, you are welcome to add all the air forces. Skjoldbro (talk) 13:23, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Meh, like I said, the more the better. The page wouldn't become cluttered, as it's still divided by countries and sub-divided by military branch, it would just be longer. But, that's just my opinion. - wolf 15:40, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- Interesting, what was the discussion about?
- I was only made aware of the missing Luftwaffe ranks by a discussion on the (now deleted) SS-Volksmarschall page. I wasn't made aware of other missing rank sets, such as the Polish Air Force, but I don't see the harm in including any of them, (in fact, the more the better, I say). The page isn't at a size yet where we need to conserve space. - wolf 16:47, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- I would say the Yugoslav Air Force is more worthy, as it actually has distinctive insignia. You don't feel like the it is already covered the way it is presented now? All the insignia and rank names are already shown. Would you also want to add the Polish Air Force insignia? Skjoldbro (talk) 09:16, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- I would say it's just as worthy of inclusion as say, the Royal Yugoslav Air Force, but more so since the rank of Reichsmarschall is of the Luftwaffe. Cheers - wolf 08:54, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
General of Armies of United States/Generalissimus of USSR
editShould the rank of Soviet generalissimus be included in the table, and if so, shouldn't the rank of US general of armies be included? The generalissimus rank was propsed for Stalin, but it was never actually held by anyone. General of the armies rank technically existed, held by long-retired Pershing, and there were proposals to make MacArthur one in 1945, should he actually command the invasion of Japan as the Allied supreme commander--although he never did get the rank. So both are semi fictitious ranks, mostly honorary and symbolic, but if one is included, the other should be, too, or perhaps both should not be included. 76.93.91.225 (talk) 06:54, 25 August 2023 (UTC)