Talk:Comparison of Cantonese transcription systems
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Latest comment: 5 years ago by Sol Pacificus in topic Critical IPA errors
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Critical IPA errors
editThe characters given as examples for some of the phonemes are matched with the wrong IPA entirely.
- 將 is a homophone of 張 and so share with it the initial [tɕ].
- An example of [ts] in Cantonese would instead be 戰. [ʈʂ] which is present in Cantonese with characters like 中, identical in pronunciation to the Mandarin, is not given at all.
- 鏘 does not have initial [tsʰ] but rather [ʈʂʰ] which is also the initial for 昌.
- A correct example for [tsʰ] would instead be 車 or 炒.
- Instead, this chart gives the initial for 昌 as [tɕʰ], i.e. the Mandarin Pinyin 'q', which is a phoneme absent from Cantonese entirely. (By the way, as a native speaker who learned Mandarin late, that sound was quite difficult to learn to pronounce).
- 是 is pronounced identically to 士 with initial [s], and [ɕ] is absent from Cantonese.
Given how many critical errors are in this chart, I would strongly advise sources to be provided for it. I am not sure if perhaps the pronunciations given here reflect a different dialect of Cantonese aside from Hong Kong Cantonese or Guangdong Cantonese. Sol Pacificus (talk) 04:46, 1 November 2018 (UTC)