Talk:Portuguese conquest of Ceuta

Henry

Henry was the third son of João, not the fourth. I think it should also be discussed what other reasons Henry might have had for pushing for the capture of Ceuta, mainly his wallet. Peter Russell's book on Henry is excellent.Monikwee

Sultanate of Morroco???

A serious mistake is committed. Morroco did not exist in this epoch it is like to say that Castile was Spain in the 13th century.

In the same way it is ridiculous, the panel of campaign. In Morocco? It would be better to change it into Portuguese campaigns into the north of Africa.

Another clear contradiction is yes Ceuta is in Spain, cannot be in Morocco .... as he says the article... The article seems to be very slanted...--88.19.30.232 (talk) 23:41, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Morocco did exist, it was the sultanate of Marrakesh and Fes. The English word Morocco is an Anglicization of Marrakesh. At the time Ceuta was under the political authority of the Kingdom or Sultanate that was, in actual fact, the ancestor of modern Morocco so it is entirely appropriate to use this term. Your objection seems very slanted. Anonymous 208.65.192.1 (talk) 23:21, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

I agree. Morocco did exist by this time. It is a common misconception among Spaniards that it didn't exist. Ceuta was under Moroccan control for a period of time, but it was more closely tied to Islamic Al Andalus. Asilah1981 (talk) 15:17, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Name Change

Ceuta has been conquered probably a good couple of dozen of times throughout history. Which conquest are we referring to here? Article should be named Portuguese conquest of Ceuta. Asilah1981 (talk) 15:17, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Anyone disagrees if I redirect this article to Portuguese Conquest of Ceuta?

Will proceed if no one contests over coming days.Asilah1981 (talk) 19:36, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 29 April 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: general consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 07:02, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

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Conquest of Ceuta → Portuguese conquest of Ceuta – As has been brought up previously on the talk page, the current title is not WP:PRECISE. إيان (talk) 18:28, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Against Nope, this is the WP:Common name and there is no other notable conquest to disambiguate from. Cristiano Tomás (talk) 19:48, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

• Support. There are several other notable conquests of Ceuta (e.g. by Cordoba Umayyads in 931, Almoravids in 1084, Almohads in 1148, Marinids in 1309 and 1328, etc.). Helps clarity. Walrasiad (talk) 06:00, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
• Support. I'd assume someone not very knowledgable on the history of this city, that is, the vast majority of world population, would first assume that the conquest was by Spain simply because that's the country it is located in. It is true there's no need for disambiguation as Spain did not get this city through war but I still think this can improve precision. Super Ψ Dro 17:38, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
• Support Red Slash 16:51, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nominator. KevinNov3 (talk) 07:53, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

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